Decision Time

Hi

Now that C#-Refactory is back on line, I have to decide which product we will be using for our C# team. I have to say it's a tricky decision to make. C#-Refactory sells for $US 99 for the first licence, $US 50 thereafter and a 30-user licence for $US 549.

Can you tell me whether Resharper will be in this 'ball-park' when released? If so, I will hold off buying our licences (team of 10) until them.

Thanks

Sean

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I cannot promise anything about the price yet but I think that comparison of
C#-Refactory and ReSharper is not quite correct. ReSharper provides much
more functionality than refactorings (and I would even say refactorings are
not key features of it, maybe our users think differently, I don't know).

P.S. Didn't C#-Refactory die? Last time I was on their site it seemed so...

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

"sean kearon" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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Hi

>

Now that C#-Refactory is back on line, I have to decide which product we

will be using for our C# team. I have to say it's a tricky decision to
make. C#-Refactory sells for $US 99 for the first licence, $US 50
thereafter and a 30-user licence for $US 549.
>

Can you tell me whether Resharper will be in this 'ball-park' when

released? If so, I will hold off buying our licences (team of 10) until
them.
>

Thanks

>

Sean



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I am looking mainly for a refactoring tool. It would be nice if there
were different versions of Resharper at different price points.


Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains) wrote:

I cannot promise anything about the price yet but I think that
comparison of C#-Refactory and ReSharper is not quite correct.
ReSharper provides much more functionality than refactorings (and I
would even say refactorings are not key features of it, maybe our
users think differently, I don't know).

P.S. Didn't C#-Refactory die? Last time I was on their site it seemed
so...


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C

  1. Refactory is dead, check their forums with lots of requests for serial number or money-back. However I still use it, for some features yet missed from Resharper, like "Tidy Imports". Hopefully, this gaps will be filled soon, so I can uninstall C# Refactory...

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it, for some features yet missed from Resharper, like "Tidy Imports"


Yes, something like that is planned.

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

"Ilya Ryzhenkov" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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C

  1. Refactory is dead, check their forums with lots of requests for serial

number or money-back. However I still use it, for some features yet missed
from Resharper, like "Tidy Imports". Hopefully, this gaps will be filled
soon, so I can uninstall C# Refactory...


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I would guess from what you said, Valentin, that you will be priced higher than Refactory then? I agree that Resharper does more than Refactory, but I would mainly be using the refactorings. Code completion templates are very good too (even better than Borland's implementation in the Delphi IDE), but price will make the choice for us here, with refactoring aid being the primary feature.

10 licences for Refactory will cost $550, meaning we would buy the 30 licence package for that money and be able to share the cost with some of our other teams. I would hold out for Resharper, and stay on the EAP until then, if I knew there was going to be a 'per licence' price of around $150 - making $1500 for ten licences - nearly three times the price of a third of the licences of Refactory. That would still require me to 'sell' Resharper over Refactory to my management. At those price differences, I would need strong arguments to do that.

Unfortunately, I do need to make a decision pretty soon as Refactory is now back in business, we have an option to cancel the order too.

Thanks

Sean

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Not quite dead see:
http://weblogs.asp.net/wallen/archive/2004/04/05/108045.aspx#122922

"Ilya Ryzhenkov" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
news:2151051.1083837893030.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net...

C

  1. Refactory is dead, check their forums with lots of requests for serial

number or money-back. However I still use it, for some features yet missed
from Resharper, like "Tidy Imports". Hopefully, this gaps will be filled
soon, so I can uninstall C# Refactory...


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Forgive the absolute rudeness of doing this (pulling a complaint from
another message board about a product from a different person) but I do want
to make a point.

"After trying Resharper for a day I'm getting irritated with its modal
preprocessing every time I load a project. Otherwise it is only good for
renaming (so far). "

While I disagree about most of their views on Resharper, I must admit this
one sort of caught my attention. I completely realize the tremendous job it
is to make a program like Resharper, but can we hope that the constant
loading of assemblies and the like will be bettered in the future? Or is
this the way you guys think it will stay? It's not an issue that would make
me switch products, but it would be nice to be able to load projects
quickly, instead of having to wait, but I understand the neccessity of what
Resharper has to do, and why it needs to take that time ...


"Wayne Allen" <wayne@iclemartin.com> wrote in message
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Not quite dead see:
http://weblogs.asp.net/wallen/archive/2004/04/05/108045.aspx#122922

>

"Ilya Ryzhenkov" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
news:2151051.1083837893030.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net...

>> C# Refactory is dead, check their forums with lots of requests for serial

number or money-back. However I still use it, for some features yet missed
from Resharper, like "Tidy Imports". Hopefully, this gaps will be filled
soon, so I can uninstall C# Refactory...

>



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Internal changes that we hope will lead to significant improvements in
startup (assemblies and C++ projects processing) are under way.

Modal startup preprocessing will remain for some time.

--
Andrey Simanovsky
Software Developer
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"



"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
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Forgive the absolute rudeness of doing this (pulling a complaint from
another message board about a product from a different person) but I do

want

to make a point.

>

"After trying Resharper for a day I'm getting irritated with its modal
preprocessing every time I load a project. Otherwise it is only good for
renaming (so far). "

>

While I disagree about most of their views on Resharper, I must admit this
one sort of caught my attention. I completely realize the tremendous job

it

is to make a program like Resharper, but can we hope that the constant
loading of assemblies and the like will be bettered in the future? Or is
this the way you guys think it will stay? It's not an issue that would

make

me switch products, but it would be nice to be able to load projects
quickly, instead of having to wait, but I understand the neccessity of

what

Resharper has to do, and why it needs to take that time ...

>
>

"Wayne Allen" <wayne@iclemartin.com> wrote in message
news:c7dqu9$ve2$1@is.intellij.net...

Not quite dead see:
http://weblogs.asp.net/wallen/archive/2004/04/05/108045.aspx#122922

>

"Ilya Ryzhenkov" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
news:2151051.1083837893030.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net...

>> C# Refactory is dead, check their forums with lots of requests for

serial

number or money-back. However I still use it, for some features yet

missed

from Resharper, like "Tidy Imports". Hopefully, this gaps will be filled
soon, so I can uninstall C# Refactory...

>
>

>
>


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A small price to pay for the benefit of what ReSharper offers.
"Andrey Simanovsky (JetBrains)" <ands@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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Internal changes that we hope will lead to significant improvements in
startup (assemblies and C++ projects processing) are under way.

>

Modal startup preprocessing will remain for some time.

>

--
Andrey Simanovsky
Software Developer
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>
>
>

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
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>> Forgive the absolute rudeness of doing this (pulling a complaint from
>> another message board about a product from a different person) but I do

want

>> to make a point.
>>
>> "After trying Resharper for a day I'm getting irritated with its modal
>> preprocessing every time I load a project. Otherwise it is only good for
>> renaming (so far). "
>>
>> While I disagree about most of their views on Resharper, I must admit
>> this
>> one sort of caught my attention. I completely realize the tremendous job

it

>> is to make a program like Resharper, but can we hope that the constant
>> loading of assemblies and the like will be bettered in the future? Or is
>> this the way you guys think it will stay? It's not an issue that would

make

>> me switch products, but it would be nice to be able to load projects
>> quickly, instead of having to wait, but I understand the neccessity of

what

>> Resharper has to do, and why it needs to take that time ...
>>
>>
>> "Wayne Allen" <wayne@iclemartin.com> wrote in message
>> news:c7dqu9$ve2$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > Not quite dead see:
>> > http://weblogs.asp.net/wallen/archive/2004/04/05/108045.aspx#122922
>> >
>> > "Ilya Ryzhenkov" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2151051.1083837893030.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net...
>> >> C# Refactory is dead, check their forums with lots of requests for

serial

>> > number or money-back. However I still use it, for some features yet

missed

>> > from Resharper, like "Tidy Imports". Hopefully, this gaps will be
>> > filled
>> > soon, so I can uninstall C# Refactory...
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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I completely agree with Andrey, this is a small price to pay. Once loaded, Resharper performs pretty well, and it's only in EAP! There is no doubt about competition either, Reshaper is a far more powerful tool than Refactory and lets me interact with my code base in a much more organic way than I ever have done before. I would go so far as saying that it makes Visual Studio as productive an environment as Borland Delphi (after it's had a couple of after market enhancements added!)

However, an idea of a ballpark price would really help. I definately want to have Resharper and I may buy a personal licence myself once it comes out. If I'm going to tell the management to hold back on team licences until Resharper is released, it would really help to know whether I would get the budget for it.

Could you either say roughly what you are thinking to sell Resharper for or say that you wont say at this time, please?

Thanks again

Sean

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I would guess from what you said, Valentin, that you will be priced higher

than Refactory then?

I didn't say that. I personally think it will be about $100 for one license
(I think you can rely on that it's not more than that). Cannot say anything
about volume discounts yet.

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

"sean kearon" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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I would guess from what you said, Valentin, that you will be priced higher

than Refactory then? I agree that Resharper does more than Refactory, but I
would mainly be using the refactorings. Code completion templates are very
good too (even better than Borland's implementation in the Delphi IDE), but
price will make the choice for us here, with refactoring aid being the
primary feature.
>

10 licences for Refactory will cost $550, meaning we would buy the 30

licence package for that money and be able to share the cost with some of
our other teams. I would hold out for Resharper, and stay on the EAP until
then, if I knew there was going to be a 'per licence' price of around $150 -
making $1500 for ten licences - nearly three times the price of a third of
the licences of Refactory. That would still require me to 'sell' Resharper
over Refactory to my management. At those price differences, I would need
strong arguments to do that.
>

Unfortunately, I do need to make a decision pretty soon as Refactory is

now back in business, we have an option to cancel the order too.
>

Thanks

>

Sean

>


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Per previous posts the processing is architected as asynch, but it's kept
modal for now with plans to address it in the future. I suspect that means
that modal is good nuff for now and they are concentrating on core feature
set in the short-term.

Some people can deal with early access, some can't. The ones that can't
shouldn't take potshots at a pre-release product. I also suspect you quoted
this guy out of context... but without a link who knows.

/jhd

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:c7e122$1le$1@is.intellij.net...

Forgive the absolute rudeness of doing this (pulling a complaint from
another message board about a product from a different person) but I do

want

to make a point.

>

"After trying Resharper for a day I'm getting irritated with its modal
preprocessing every time I load a project. Otherwise it is only good for
renaming (so far). "

>

While I disagree about most of their views on Resharper, I must admit this
one sort of caught my attention. I completely realize the tremendous job

it

is to make a program like Resharper, but can we hope that the constant
loading of assemblies and the like will be bettered in the future? Or is
this the way you guys think it will stay? It's not an issue that would

make

me switch products, but it would be nice to be able to load projects
quickly, instead of having to wait, but I understand the neccessity of

what

Resharper has to do, and why it needs to take that time ...

>
>

"Wayne Allen" <wayne@iclemartin.com> wrote in message
news:c7dqu9$ve2$1@is.intellij.net...

Not quite dead see:
http://weblogs.asp.net/wallen/archive/2004/04/05/108045.aspx#122922

>

"Ilya Ryzhenkov" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
news:2151051.1083837893030.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net...

>> C# Refactory is dead, check their forums with lots of requests for

serial

number or money-back. However I still use it, for some features yet

missed

from Resharper, like "Tidy Imports". Hopefully, this gaps will be filled
soon, so I can uninstall C# Refactory...

>
>

>
>


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"Some people can deal with early access, some can't. The ones that can't
shouldn't take potshots at a pre-release product. I also suspect you quoted
this guy out of context... but without a link who knows."

First of all. My statement was just fine. "Pre-Release" products are not "As
Is Deal With it". Pre-Release products are intended to better the end
product by providing the developers with user input and ideas.

Secondly, the link was provided in the higher-level posts on this same
thread.

Thirdly, if I was taking a 'potshot' at the product, I would have probably
flamed it, cursed it, and/or tried to find other problems aside from the
aforementioned one.

In conclusion, you seem more like you're just trying to find a reason to
gripe at someone than a person who bothered to actually read the thread.


"John Dhom" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:c7g4hn$n21$1@is.intellij.net...

Per previous posts the processing is architected as asynch, but it's kept
modal for now with plans to address it in the future. I suspect that means
that modal is good nuff for now and they are concentrating on core feature
set in the short-term.

>

Some people can deal with early access, some can't. The ones that can't
shouldn't take potshots at a pre-release product. I also suspect you
quoted
this guy out of context... but without a link who knows.

>

/jhd

>

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:c7e122$1le$1@is.intellij.net...

>> Forgive the absolute rudeness of doing this (pulling a complaint from
>> another message board about a product from a different person) but I do

want

>> to make a point.
>>
>> "After trying Resharper for a day I'm getting irritated with its modal
>> preprocessing every time I load a project. Otherwise it is only good for
>> renaming (so far). "
>>
>> While I disagree about most of their views on Resharper, I must admit
>> this
>> one sort of caught my attention. I completely realize the tremendous job

it

>> is to make a program like Resharper, but can we hope that the constant
>> loading of assemblies and the like will be bettered in the future? Or is
>> this the way you guys think it will stay? It's not an issue that would

make

>> me switch products, but it would be nice to be able to load projects
>> quickly, instead of having to wait, but I understand the neccessity of

what

>> Resharper has to do, and why it needs to take that time ...
>>
>>
>> "Wayne Allen" <wayne@iclemartin.com> wrote in message
>> news:c7dqu9$ve2$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > Not quite dead see:
>> > http://weblogs.asp.net/wallen/archive/2004/04/05/108045.aspx#122922
>> >
>> > "Ilya Ryzhenkov" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2151051.1083837893030.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net...
>> >> C# Refactory is dead, check their forums with lots of requests for

serial

>> > number or money-back. However I still use it, for some features yet

missed

>> > from Resharper, like "Tidy Imports". Hopefully, this gaps will be
>> > filled
>> > soon, so I can uninstall C# Refactory...
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>



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Please please don't start a flame! All your feedback is very important for
us.

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:c7g7tj$d47$1@is.intellij.net...

"Some people can deal with early access, some can't. The ones that can't
shouldn't take potshots at a pre-release product. I also suspect you

quoted

this guy out of context... but without a link who knows."

>

First of all. My statement was just fine. "Pre-Release" products are not

"As

Is Deal With it". Pre-Release products are intended to better the end
product by providing the developers with user input and ideas.

>

Secondly, the link was provided in the higher-level posts on this same
thread.

>

Thirdly, if I was taking a 'potshot' at the product, I would have probably
flamed it, cursed it, and/or tried to find other problems aside from the
aforementioned one.

>

In conclusion, you seem more like you're just trying to find a reason to
gripe at someone than a person who bothered to actually read the thread.

>
>

"John Dhom" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:c7g4hn$n21$1@is.intellij.net...

Per previous posts the processing is architected as asynch, but it's

kept

modal for now with plans to address it in the future. I suspect that

means

that modal is good nuff for now and they are concentrating on core

feature

set in the short-term.

>

Some people can deal with early access, some can't. The ones that can't
shouldn't take potshots at a pre-release product. I also suspect you
quoted
this guy out of context... but without a link who knows.

>

/jhd

>

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:c7e122$1le$1@is.intellij.net...

>> Forgive the absolute rudeness of doing this (pulling a complaint from
>> another message board about a product from a different person) but I do

want

>> to make a point.
>>
>> "After trying Resharper for a day I'm getting irritated with its modal
>> preprocessing every time I load a project. Otherwise it is only good

for

>> renaming (so far). "
>>
>> While I disagree about most of their views on Resharper, I must admit
>> this
>> one sort of caught my attention. I completely realize the tremendous

job

it

>> is to make a program like Resharper, but can we hope that the constant
>> loading of assemblies and the like will be bettered in the future? Or

is

>> this the way you guys think it will stay? It's not an issue that would

make

>> me switch products, but it would be nice to be able to load projects
>> quickly, instead of having to wait, but I understand the neccessity of

what

>> Resharper has to do, and why it needs to take that time ...
>>
>>
>> "Wayne Allen" <wayne@iclemartin.com> wrote in message
>> news:c7dqu9$ve2$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > Not quite dead see:
>> > http://weblogs.asp.net/wallen/archive/2004/04/05/108045.aspx#122922
>> >
>> > "Ilya Ryzhenkov" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2151051.1083837893030.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net...
>> >> C# Refactory is dead, check their forums with lots of requests for

serial

>> > number or money-back. However I still use it, for some features yet

missed

>> > from Resharper, like "Tidy Imports". Hopefully, this gaps will be
>> > filled
>> > soon, so I can uninstall C# Refactory...
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

>
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I've no intention of pursuing replies past the one I've already posted, so
you'll get no flames from me. :D

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
news:c7g8fo$gnn$1@is.intellij.net...

Please please don't start a flame! All your feedback is very important for
us.

>

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:c7g7tj$d47$1@is.intellij.net...

>> "Some people can deal with early access, some can't. The ones that can't
>> shouldn't take potshots at a pre-release product. I also suspect you

quoted

>> this guy out of context... but without a link who knows."
>>
>> First of all. My statement was just fine. "Pre-Release" products are not

"As

>> Is Deal With it". Pre-Release products are intended to better the end
>> product by providing the developers with user input and ideas.
>>
>> Secondly, the link was provided in the higher-level posts on this same
>> thread.
>>
>> Thirdly, if I was taking a 'potshot' at the product, I would have
>> probably
>> flamed it, cursed it, and/or tried to find other problems aside from the
>> aforementioned one.
>>
>> In conclusion, you seem more like you're just trying to find a reason to
>> gripe at someone than a person who bothered to actually read the thread.
>>
>>
>> "John Dhom" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:c7g4hn$n21$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > Per previous posts the processing is architected as asynch, but it's

kept

>> > modal for now with plans to address it in the future. I suspect that

means

>> > that modal is good nuff for now and they are concentrating on core

feature

>> > set in the short-term.
>> >
>> > Some people can deal with early access, some can't. The ones that can't
>> > shouldn't take potshots at a pre-release product. I also suspect you
>> > quoted
>> > this guy out of context... but without a link who knows.
>> >
>> > /jhd
>> >
>> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:c7e122$1le$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> Forgive the absolute rudeness of doing this (pulling a complaint from
>> >> another message board about a product from a different person) but I
>> >> do
>> > want
>> >> to make a point.
>> >>
>> >> "After trying Resharper for a day I'm getting irritated with its modal
>> >> preprocessing every time I load a project. Otherwise it is only good

for

>> >> renaming (so far). "
>> >>
>> >> While I disagree about most of their views on Resharper, I must admit
>> >> this
>> >> one sort of caught my attention. I completely realize the tremendous

job

>> > it
>> >> is to make a program like Resharper, but can we hope that the constant
>> >> loading of assemblies and the like will be bettered in the future? Or

is

>> >> this the way you guys think it will stay? It's not an issue that would
>> > make
>> >> me switch products, but it would be nice to be able to load projects
>> >> quickly, instead of having to wait, but I understand the neccessity of
>> > what
>> >> Resharper has to do, and why it needs to take that time ...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Wayne Allen" <wayne@iclemartin.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:c7dqu9$ve2$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > Not quite dead see:
>> >> > http://weblogs.asp.net/wallen/archive/2004/04/05/108045.aspx#122922
>> >> >
>> >> > "Ilya Ryzhenkov" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:2151051.1083837893030.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> C# Refactory is dead, check their forums with lots of requests for
>> > serial
>> >> > number or money-back. However I still use it, for some features yet
>> > missed
>> >> > from Resharper, like "Tidy Imports". Hopefully, this gaps will be
>> >> > filled
>> >> > soon, so I can uninstall C# Refactory...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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Derek,

Relax, I was refering to the guy you quoted.

/jhd

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:c7g7tj$d47$1@is.intellij.net...

"Some people can deal with early access, some can't. The ones that can't
shouldn't take potshots at a pre-release product. I also suspect you

quoted

this guy out of context... but without a link who knows."

>

First of all. My statement was just fine. "Pre-Release" products are not

"As

Is Deal With it". Pre-Release products are intended to better the end
product by providing the developers with user input and ideas.

>

Secondly, the link was provided in the higher-level posts on this same
thread.

>

Thirdly, if I was taking a 'potshot' at the product, I would have probably
flamed it, cursed it, and/or tried to find other problems aside from the
aforementioned one.

>

In conclusion, you seem more like you're just trying to find a reason to
gripe at someone than a person who bothered to actually read the thread.

>
>

"John Dhom" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:c7g4hn$n21$1@is.intellij.net...

Per previous posts the processing is architected as asynch, but it's

kept

modal for now with plans to address it in the future. I suspect that

means

that modal is good nuff for now and they are concentrating on core

feature

set in the short-term.

>

Some people can deal with early access, some can't. The ones that can't
shouldn't take potshots at a pre-release product. I also suspect you
quoted
this guy out of context... but without a link who knows.

>

/jhd

>

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:c7e122$1le$1@is.intellij.net...

>> Forgive the absolute rudeness of doing this (pulling a complaint from
>> another message board about a product from a different person) but I do

want

>> to make a point.
>>
>> "After trying Resharper for a day I'm getting irritated with its modal
>> preprocessing every time I load a project. Otherwise it is only good

for

>> renaming (so far). "
>>
>> While I disagree about most of their views on Resharper, I must admit
>> this
>> one sort of caught my attention. I completely realize the tremendous

job

it

>> is to make a program like Resharper, but can we hope that the constant
>> loading of assemblies and the like will be bettered in the future? Or

is

>> this the way you guys think it will stay? It's not an issue that would

make

>> me switch products, but it would be nice to be able to load projects
>> quickly, instead of having to wait, but I understand the neccessity of

what

>> Resharper has to do, and why it needs to take that time ...
>>
>>
>> "Wayne Allen" <wayne@iclemartin.com> wrote in message
>> news:c7dqu9$ve2$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > Not quite dead see:
>> > http://weblogs.asp.net/wallen/archive/2004/04/05/108045.aspx#122922
>> >
>> > "Ilya Ryzhenkov" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2151051.1083837893030.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net...
>> >> C# Refactory is dead, check their forums with lots of requests for

serial

>> > number or money-back. However I still use it, for some features yet

missed

>> > from Resharper, like "Tidy Imports". Hopefully, this gaps will be
>> > filled
>> > soon, so I can uninstall C# Refactory...
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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As long as ReSharper is under $600, I'll be happy.
... Even if it's over that much, I'll probably buy it anyway.

"sean kearon" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
news:7537805.1083742655792.JavaMail.itn@is.intellij.net...

Hi

>

Now that C#-Refactory is back on line, I have to decide which product we
will be using for our C# team. I have to say it's a tricky decision to
make. C#-Refactory sells for $US 99 for the first licence, $US 50
thereafter and a 30-user licence for $US 549.

>

Can you tell me whether Resharper will be in this 'ball-park' when
released? If so, I will hold off buying our licences (team of 10) until
them.

>

Thanks

>

Sean




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I know what you mean, Resharper is a top class tool, no doubt about it. However, $600 would price me out of the picture.... & I would be sad!!!

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To end this saga....I have not licenced Refactory and am going to risk getting the cash for Resharper when it is released. The reason...Resharper is just so much better! I really couldn't live without 'Find Usages' and can't wait for the Ctrl-J extensions in M2. ( Do I get a discount now ;) )

What an excellent tool.

Sean

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