[249] Slow editor response while typing and popups are visible

Hi everybody,

First of all, congrats to the JB guys for getting 2.0 released! I have been
endorsing R# to all my colleagues and everybody who wants to hear about it,
since it is such a great tool and I basically couldn't code without it.

One thing that still bothers me a lot is that there is a performance issue
with r# on our systems: the editor response becomes awfully slow when a popup
(either parameter info, intellisense or in-line refactoring suggestion) is
showing. Pressing escape to hide that popup makes the editor respond perfectly
again.

I have tried to start some threads on this before because it drastically
reduces the usability of r#, especially for new users (I have learned to
put up with it during the EAP process because not using r# is hardly an option
for me :)).

This problem is not related to the size of the project/solution I am working
with (it even occurs in a single-class solution), but it only occurs in VS2003,
when using r# with VS2005 everyting goes smooth.

I was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem. If so, it might
be a good idea to list up the system specs, addons, ... so a cause could
be found, and the problem can be reproduced by the JB guys.

I'm working with VS2003, R#2.0 (249), SyncFusion 2.1.0.9 installed, P4 3.2Ghz,
1024Mb RAM, Win2K SP4 and I have a dual monitor set-up. I have two of these
(identical) systems here, and the problem occurs on both of them.

Greetings,

Guy


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Hello Guy,

does it depend on the contents of popup windows - i.e. does it matter what
symbols are shown in IntelliSense, what signatures are listed
in Parameter Info? Thanks.

Regards,
Dmitry Shaporenkov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

Hi everybody,

First of all, congrats to the JB guys for getting 2.0 released! I
have been endorsing R# to all my colleagues and everybody who wants to
hear about it, since it is such a great tool and I basically couldn't
code without it.

One thing that still bothers me a lot is that there is a performance
issue with r# on our systems: the editor response becomes awfully slow
when a popup (either parameter info, intellisense or in-line
refactoring suggestion) is showing. Pressing escape to hide that popup
makes the editor respond perfectly again.

I have tried to start some threads on this before because it
drastically reduces the usability of r#, especially for new users (I
have learned to put up with it during the EAP process because not
using r# is hardly an option for me :)).

This problem is not related to the size of the project/solution I am
working with (it even occurs in a single-class solution), but it only
occurs in VS2003, when using r# with VS2005 everyting goes smooth.

I was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem. If so, it
might be a good idea to list up the system specs, addons, ... so a
cause could be found, and the problem can be reproduced by the JB
guys.

I'm working with VS2003, R#2.0 (249), SyncFusion 2.1.0.9 installed, P4
3.2Ghz, 1024Mb RAM, Win2K SP4 and I have a dual monitor set-up. I have
two of these (identical) systems here, and the problem occurs on both
of them.

Greetings,

Guy



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Yes, I have had this problem since build 224, posted many times on this forum and quite frankly have gotten very little response.

I love R# but have had to go back to 1.5 until this issue is resolved.

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Hello Dmitry,

First of all thanks for the quick response.

No, it does not seem to depend on the contents.

A single-parameter, single-signature popup causes the same delay as one that
contains many complex signatures; same with intellisense and inline refactoring
suggestions: even a popup containing just 'No suggestions' causes the same
delay as one containing many suggestions.

Just let me know if you need more info.

Greetings,

Guy

Hello Guy,

does it depend on the contents of popup windows - i.e. does it matter
what
symbols are shown in IntelliSense, what signatures are listed
in Parameter Info? Thanks.
Regards,
Dmitry Shaporenkov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> First of all, congrats to the JB guys for getting 2.0 released! I
>> have been endorsing R# to all my colleagues and everybody who wants
>> to hear about it, since it is such a great tool and I basically
>> couldn't code without it.
>>
>> One thing that still bothers me a lot is that there is a performance
>> issue with r# on our systems: the editor response becomes awfully
>> slow when a popup (either parameter info, intellisense or in-line
>> refactoring suggestion) is showing. Pressing escape to hide that
>> popup makes the editor respond perfectly again.
>>
>> I have tried to start some threads on this before because it
>> drastically reduces the usability of r#, especially for new users (I
>> have learned to put up with it during the EAP process because not
>> using r# is hardly an option for me :)).
>>
>> This problem is not related to the size of the project/solution I am
>> working with (it even occurs in a single-class solution), but it only
>> occurs in VS2003, when using r# with VS2005 everyting goes smooth.
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem. If so, it
>> might be a good idea to list up the system specs, addons, ... so a
>> cause could be found, and the problem can be reproduced by the JB
>> guys.
>>
>> I'm working with VS2003, R#2.0 (249), SyncFusion 2.1.0.9 installed,
>> P4 3.2Ghz, 1024Mb RAM, Win2K SP4 and I have a dual monitor set-up. I
>> have two of these (identical) systems here, and the problem occurs on
>> both of them.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Guy
>>


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Hello alastair,

Could you please post some info on your system and set-up, maybe this will
help to find the cause of this problem...

Greetings,

Guy

Yes, I have had this problem since build 224, posted many times on
this forum and quite frankly have gotten very little response.

I love R# but have had to go back to 1.5 until this issue is resolved.



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Here is a previous thread, looks like there are a number of people suffering the same:

http://www.intellij.net/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=225065&tstart=15

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Hello Guy

Are all the computers of the same brand/model? Maybe run some benchmarks on
your system to detect possible CPU or memory bottlenecks and compare the
results with other PC's from another brand/model . I assume that you already
tried uninstalling/reinstalling ReSharper? And Visual Studio?

Greets

Gabriel


"Guy Mahieu" <g@g.com> wrote in message
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Hello alastair,

>

Could you please post some info on your system and set-up, maybe this will
help to find the cause of this problem...

>

Greetings,

>

Guy

>
>> Yes, I have had this problem since build 224, posted many times on
>> this forum and quite frankly have gotten very little response.
>>
>> I love R# but have had to go back to 1.5 until this issue is resolved.
>>
>



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I see the same issue and I doubt this is PC related.

I use R# on a WinXPSP2, Dell Intel3.2GhHT, 2Gb Ram and on an Acer Ferrari
laptop with AMD 64, 2Ghz (WinXP32SP2) with 2Gb ram and the problem is
clearly visible in both. VS2003 + R#1.5 is absolutely blazing fast on both
of them.



Corneliu.



"Gabriel Lozano-Morán" <gabriel@no-spam.org> wrote in message
news:e52gin$7u7$1@is.intellij.net...

Hello Guy

>

Are all the computers of the same brand/model? Maybe run some benchmarks
on your system to detect possible CPU or memory bottlenecks and compare
the results with other PC's from another brand/model . I assume that you
already tried uninstalling/reinstalling ReSharper? And Visual Studio?

>

Greets

>

Gabriel

>
>

"Guy Mahieu" <g@g.com> wrote in message
news:ca2e39a490128c84c92f23996f0@news.jetbrains.com...

>> Hello alastair,
>>
>> Could you please post some info on your system and set-up, maybe this
>> will help to find the cause of this problem...
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Guy
>>
>>> Yes, I have had this problem since build 224, posted many times on
>>> this forum and quite frankly have gotten very little response.
>>>
>>> I love R# but have had to go back to 1.5 until this issue is resolved.
>>>
>>
>>
>



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I am just asking because it wouldn't be the first time multithreaded
applications having troubles with HyperThreading or HyperTransport.

Gabriel

"Corneliu I. Tusnea" <me@me.com> wrote in message
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>I see the same issue and I doubt this is PC related.
>

I use R# on a WinXPSP2, Dell Intel3.2GhHT, 2Gb Ram and on an Acer Ferrari
laptop with AMD 64, 2Ghz (WinXP32SP2) with 2Gb ram and the problem is
clearly visible in both. VS2003 + R#1.5 is absolutely blazing fast on both
of them.

>
>
>

Corneliu.

>
>
>

"Gabriel Lozano-Morán" <gabriel@no-spam.org> wrote in message
news:e52gin$7u7$1@is.intellij.net...

>> Hello Guy
>>
>> Are all the computers of the same brand/model? Maybe run some benchmarks
>> on your system to detect possible CPU or memory bottlenecks and compare
>> the results with other PC's from another brand/model . I assume that you
>> already tried uninstalling/reinstalling ReSharper? And Visual Studio?
>>
>> Greets
>>
>> Gabriel
>>
>>
>> "Guy Mahieu" <g@g.com> wrote in message
>> news:ca2e39a490128c84c92f23996f0@news.jetbrains.com...
>>> Hello alastair,
>>>
>>> Could you please post some info on your system and set-up, maybe this
>>> will help to find the cause of this problem...
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Guy
>>>
>>>> Yes, I have had this problem since build 224, posted many times on
>>>> this forum and quite frankly have gotten very little response.
>>>>
>>>> I love R# but have had to go back to 1.5 until this issue is resolved.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>



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All the machines are the same. and the OS was created from the same image also.

Out of 4 installs, 2 are seeing the slowdowns. Not a very promising success rate...

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The problem might be caused by integrated video card, that uses RAM when
.Net framework 1.1 is used. We're going to investigate it shortly.

--
Sergey V. Coox
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"



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Yes, ours have the integrated video cards too. Let me know if I can test anything or provide you with any info.

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You said, not all of Your colleagues experience slowdown problems. Could You
check, what video cards do they have.
--
Sergey V. Coox
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"


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All the workstations are identical, they all have integrated video cards (Intel), mine too.

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Sergey V. Coox (JetBrains) wrote:

The problem might be caused by integrated video card, that uses RAM when
.Net framework 1.1 is used. We're going to investigate it shortly.


Not in my case - GeForce 6800 PCI Express on a dual core system...
However, .NET 1.1 is installed, and it could be that the graphics card
tools rely on it.

Cheers,
Philipp

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Hello Sergey,

You said, not all of Your colleagues experience slowdown problems.
Could You check, what video cards do they have.


We have this problem on systems with non-onboard video cards.
Reproduced this bug on two systems with ATI FireGL V3100 (PCI Express, dual
out).

Greetings,

Guy


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Hi Dmitry,

I tried to send you some dotTrace output via mail regarding this issue (it
was too big for this newsgroup). Did you get it? Did it help? Do you need
anything else?

Thanks,
Andi

"Dmitry Shaporenkov (JetBrains)" <dsha@jetbrains.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:c8a894d91879148c84ca2053a9556@news.intellij.net...

Hello Guy,

>

does it depend on the contents of popup windows - i.e. does it matter what
symbols are shown in IntelliSense, what signatures are listed
in Parameter Info? Thanks.

>

Regards,
Dmitry Shaporenkov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> First of all, congrats to the JB guys for getting 2.0 released! I
>> have been endorsing R# to all my colleagues and everybody who wants to
>> hear about it, since it is such a great tool and I basically couldn't
>> code without it.
>>
>> One thing that still bothers me a lot is that there is a performance
>> issue with r# on our systems: the editor response becomes awfully slow
>> when a popup (either parameter info, intellisense or in-line
>> refactoring suggestion) is showing. Pressing escape to hide that popup
>> makes the editor respond perfectly again.
>>
>> I have tried to start some threads on this before because it
>> drastically reduces the usability of r#, especially for new users (I
>> have learned to put up with it during the EAP process because not
>> using r# is hardly an option for me :)).
>>
>> This problem is not related to the size of the project/solution I am
>> working with (it even occurs in a single-class solution), but it only
>> occurs in VS2003, when using r# with VS2005 everyting goes smooth.
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem. If so, it
>> might be a good idea to list up the system specs, addons, ... so a
>> cause could be found, and the problem can be reproduced by the JB
>> guys.
>>
>> I'm working with VS2003, R#2.0 (249), SyncFusion 2.1.0.9 installed, P4
>> 3.2Ghz, 1024Mb RAM, Win2K SP4 and I have a dual monitor set-up. I have
>> two of these (identical) systems here, and the problem occurs on both
>> of them.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Guy
>>
>



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Ok, first question answered. I found the relating entry in your bug tracking
system (#25932).
http://www.intellij.net/tracker/resharper/viewSCR?publicId=25932

"Andreas Fasching" <andif@nusurf.at> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:e5m635$5g3$2@is.intellij.net...

Hi Dmitry,

>

I tried to send you some dotTrace output via mail regarding this issue (it
was too big for this newsgroup). Did you get it? Did it help? Do you need
anything else?

>

Thanks,
Andi

>

"Dmitry Shaporenkov (JetBrains)" <dsha@jetbrains.com> schrieb im
Newsbeitrag news:c8a894d91879148c84ca2053a9556@news.intellij.net...

>> Hello Guy,
>>
>> does it depend on the contents of popup windows - i.e. does it matter
>> what symbols are shown in IntelliSense, what signatures are listed
>> in Parameter Info? Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dmitry Shaporenkov
>> JetBrains, Inc
>> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> "Develop with pleasure!"
>>
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> First of all, congrats to the JB guys for getting 2.0 released! I
>>> have been endorsing R# to all my colleagues and everybody who wants to
>>> hear about it, since it is such a great tool and I basically couldn't
>>> code without it.
>>>
>>> One thing that still bothers me a lot is that there is a performance
>>> issue with r# on our systems: the editor response becomes awfully slow
>>> when a popup (either parameter info, intellisense or in-line
>>> refactoring suggestion) is showing. Pressing escape to hide that popup
>>> makes the editor respond perfectly again.
>>>
>>> I have tried to start some threads on this before because it
>>> drastically reduces the usability of r#, especially for new users (I
>>> have learned to put up with it during the EAP process because not
>>> using r# is hardly an option for me :)).
>>>
>>> This problem is not related to the size of the project/solution I am
>>> working with (it even occurs in a single-class solution), but it only
>>> occurs in VS2003, when using r# with VS2005 everyting goes smooth.
>>>
>>> I was wondering if anyone else is having the same problem. If so, it
>>> might be a good idea to list up the system specs, addons, ... so a
>>> cause could be found, and the problem can be reproduced by the JB
>>> guys.
>>>
>>> I'm working with VS2003, R#2.0 (249), SyncFusion 2.1.0.9 installed, P4
>>> 3.2Ghz, 1024Mb RAM, Win2K SP4 and I have a dual monitor set-up. I have
>>> two of these (identical) systems here, and the problem occurs on both
>>> of them.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Guy
>>>
>>
>>
>



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Guy

Can you try disabling Hyperthreading in the BIOS just to give that a try?

Cheers

Gabriel Lozano-Morán


"Guy Mahieu" <g@g.com> wrote in message
news:ca2e39a491ad8c8511061bcddae@news.jetbrains.com...

Hello Sergey,

>
>> You said, not all of Your colleagues experience slowdown problems.
>> Could You check, what video cards do they have.
>

We have this problem on systems with non-onboard video cards. Reproduced
this bug on two systems with ATI FireGL V3100 (PCI Express, dual out).

>

Greetings,

>

Guy

>



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Hello Gabriel Lozano-Morán,

Thanks for the suggestion, I tried it but it didn't do any good :/

Greetings,

Guy

Guy

Can you try disabling Hyperthreading in the BIOS just to give that a
try?

Cheers

Gabriel Lozano-Morán

"Guy Mahieu" <g@g.com> wrote in message
news:ca2e39a491ad8c8511061bcddae@news.jetbrains.com...

>> Hello Sergey,
>>
>>> You said, not all of Your colleagues experience slowdown problems.
>>> Could You check, what video cards do they have.
>>>
>> We have this problem on systems with non-onboard video cards.
>> Reproduced this bug on two systems with ATI FireGL V3100 (PCI
>> Express, dual out).
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Guy
>>


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It seems to be fixed for me in build 251.


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