>> Hello Michael, >> >> you just confirm the proverb - tastes differ, really :) >> >> Regards, >> Dmitry Shaporenkov >> JetBrains, Inc >> http://www.jetbrains.com >> "Develop with pleasure!" >>> I just wanted to say that I like the way ReSharper shows the >>> progress bar on the lower right side in build #219. Very nice... >>> :) >>>
Both form and function are nice. I think all the form needs is somekind of alpha blended background or something, so that it makes things a little clearer. Ive attached a screen shot of what mine looks like.
Hello Paul,
>
I guess that Michael meant the form, not only the function.
>> I want to make a distinction here, on my earlier comments on this >> display: >> >> 1) It's really great that ReSharper shows the progress. Very nice. >> >> 2) The form of the display is a little weird, with the way it >> over-writes the text window, scrollbar, and status line. >> >> It's not the function, it's the form, that can use some improvement. >> The function is WONDERFUL ;) >> >> "Dmitry Shaporenkov (JetBrains)" <dsha@jetbrains.com> wrote in >> message news:c8a894d910a33f8c805424ffa5d2e@news.intellij.net... >> >>> Hello Michael, >>> >>> you just confirm the proverb - tastes differ, really :) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Dmitry Shaporenkov >>> JetBrains, Inc >>> http://www.jetbrains.com >>> "Develop with pleasure!" >>>> I just wanted to say that I like the way ReSharper shows the >>>> progress bar on the lower right side in build #219. Very nice... >>>> :) >>>>
1) It should fit into a status line or something that doesn't draw over other controls ... the first time I saw it I thought it was a graphical glitch and appearing in the wrong place.
or
2) It should be a modeless window, with border and translucent background that can be moved around or even closed (or possibly even docked, and remembering it's position).
What's there is certainly better than nothing, but I hope the form is refined in the future to something a little more intuitive and standard.
> >> I want to make a distinction here, on my earlier comments on this >> display: >> >> 1) It's really great that ReSharper shows the progress. Very nice. >> >> 2) The form of the display is a little weird, with the way it >> over-writes the text window, scrollbar, and status line. >> >> It's not the function, it's the form, that can use some improvement. >> The function is WONDERFUL ;) >> >> "Dmitry Shaporenkov (JetBrains)" <dsha@jetbrains.com> wrote in message >> news:c8a894d910a33f8c805424ffa5d2e@news.intellij.net... >> >>> Hello Michael, >>> >>> you just confirm the proverb - tastes differ, really :) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Dmitry Shaporenkov >>> JetBrains, Inc >>> http://www.jetbrains.com >>> "Develop with pleasure!" >>>> I just wanted to say that I like the way ReSharper shows the >>>> progress bar on the lower right side in build #219. Very nice... >>>> :) >>>> >
I vote for a toolwindow too. The present progress looks extremely ugly.
Here's my opinion on the form:
Either:
1) It should fit into a status line or something that doesn't draw over other controls ... the first time I saw it I thought it was a graphical glitch and appearing in the wrong place.
or
2) It should be a modeless window, with border and translucent background that can be moved around or even closed (or possibly even docked, and remembering it's position).
What's there is certainly better than nothing, but I hope the form is refined in the future to something a little more intuitive and standard.
>> Hello Paul, >> >> I guess that Michael meant the form, not only the function. >> >> Regards, >> Dmitry Shaporenkov >> JetBrains, Inc >> http://www.jetbrains.com >> "Develop with pleasure!" >>> I want to make a distinction here, on my earlier comments on this >>> display: >>> >>> 1) It's really great that ReSharper shows the progress. Very nice. >>> >>> 2) The form of the display is a little weird, with the way it >>> over-writes the text window, scrollbar, and status line. >>> >>> It's not the function, it's the form, that can use some improvement. >>> The function is WONDERFUL ;) >>> >>> "Dmitry Shaporenkov (JetBrains)" <dsha@jetbrains.com> wrote in >>> message news:c8a894d910a33f8c805424ffa5d2e@news.intellij.net... >>> >>>> Hello Michael, >>>> >>>> you just confirm the proverb - tastes differ, really :) >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Dmitry Shaporenkov >>>> JetBrains, Inc >>>> http://www.jetbrains.com >>>> "Develop with pleasure!" >>>>> I just wanted to say that I like the way ReSharper shows the >>>>> progress bar on the lower right side in build #219. Very nice... >>>>> :) >>>>> Thanks, Andrey Simanovsky
I don't know if it was me initially, who asked for progress display, but I did it in tracker and meant slightly different thing. To the left of the "Ln nn Col nn" part of status bar there is place for animated icon. It is displayed during build and some other operations. I mean just animated icon to be displayed there during background analysis - either initial or later when something requires it. If tooltip can be placed over it - it would be nice to show something like "15% of solution has been analysed". Or maybe animated icon itself can show progress somehow, like filling 4 quarters as progress go.
I don't see any advantage of "progress window" over simple icon in status bar, distinguishable from VS-like icons. Who cares about file being analysed? You can't change the order analysis is done in, you can't improve the time, you don't report any errors and/or warnings in this process. Personally, I care only about the fact if analysis has been finished or not.
The problem with a draggable window (whether semitransparent or not) is that it tends to interfere with graphics of other windows in the environment. For example, for me progress appears over the solution explorer and I cannot read the processed assembly names because they are written over the file names shown in the explorer. I doubt that a draggable window will feel drastically less clumsy than the present one. On the other hand, toolwindows can be docked, have Auto Hide feature, and fit into the Visual Studio style.
Not a toolwindow, just a semi-transparent draggable window.
this is true in general, but actually there is a direct correlation between the size of the file being analysed and the time needed to analyse it, so it's not difficult to predict what files are analysed for a long time. However, there is another use of this information: if an exception or another problem happens during analysis, it is possible to say what file has caused it.
Hello Michael,
you just confirm the proverb - tastes differ, really :)
Regards,
Dmitry Shaporenkov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"
I want to make a distinction here, on my earlier comments on this display:
1) It's really great that ReSharper shows the progress. Very nice.
2) The form of the display is a little weird, with the way it over-writes
the text window, scrollbar, and status line.
It's not the function, it's the form, that can use some improvement. The
function is WONDERFUL ;)
"Dmitry Shaporenkov (JetBrains)" <dsha@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
news:c8a894d910a33f8c805424ffa5d2e@news.intellij.net...
>
>
>
>> I just wanted to say that I like the way ReSharper shows the progress
>> bar on the lower right side in build #219. Very nice... :)
>>
>
Hello Paul,
I guess that Michael meant the form, not only the function.
Regards,
Dmitry Shaporenkov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"
>> Hello Michael,
>>
>> you just confirm the proverb - tastes differ, really :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dmitry Shaporenkov
>> JetBrains, Inc
>> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> "Develop with pleasure!"
>>> I just wanted to say that I like the way ReSharper shows the
>>> progress bar on the lower right side in build #219. Very nice...
>>> :)
>>>
Both form and function are nice. I think all the form needs is somekind of alpha blended background or something, so that it makes things a little clearer. Ive attached a screen shot of what mine looks like.
>
>
>> I want to make a distinction here, on my earlier comments on this
>> display:
>>
>> 1) It's really great that ReSharper shows the progress. Very nice.
>>
>> 2) The form of the display is a little weird, with the way it
>> over-writes the text window, scrollbar, and status line.
>>
>> It's not the function, it's the form, that can use some improvement.
>> The function is WONDERFUL ;)
>>
>> "Dmitry Shaporenkov (JetBrains)" <dsha@jetbrains.com> wrote in
>> message news:c8a894d910a33f8c805424ffa5d2e@news.intellij.net...
>>
>>> Hello Michael,
>>>
>>> you just confirm the proverb - tastes differ, really :)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dmitry Shaporenkov
>>> JetBrains, Inc
>>> http://www.jetbrains.com
>>> "Develop with pleasure!"
>>>> I just wanted to say that I like the way ReSharper shows the
>>>> progress bar on the lower right side in build #219. Very nice...
>>>> :)
>>>>
Attachment(s):
Progress.png
Here's my opinion on the form:
Either:
1) It should fit into a status line or something that doesn't draw over
other controls ... the first time I saw it I thought it was a graphical
glitch and appearing in the wrong place.
or
2) It should be a modeless window, with border and translucent background
that can be moved around or even closed (or possibly even docked, and
remembering it's position).
What's there is certainly better than nothing, but I hope the form is
refined in the future to something a little more intuitive and standard.
"Dmitry Shaporenkov (JetBrains)" <dsha@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
news:c8a894d910a3bb8c805479d5da2b6@news.intellij.net...
>
>
>
>> I want to make a distinction here, on my earlier comments on this
>> display:
>>
>> 1) It's really great that ReSharper shows the progress. Very nice.
>>
>> 2) The form of the display is a little weird, with the way it
>> over-writes the text window, scrollbar, and status line.
>>
>> It's not the function, it's the form, that can use some improvement.
>> The function is WONDERFUL ;)
>>
>> "Dmitry Shaporenkov (JetBrains)" <dsha@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
>> news:c8a894d910a33f8c805424ffa5d2e@news.intellij.net...
>>
>>> Hello Michael,
>>>
>>> you just confirm the proverb - tastes differ, really :)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dmitry Shaporenkov
>>> JetBrains, Inc
>>> http://www.jetbrains.com
>>> "Develop with pleasure!"
>>>> I just wanted to say that I like the way ReSharper shows the
>>>> progress bar on the lower right side in build #219. Very nice...
>>>> :)
>>>>
>
I vote for a toolwindow too. The present progress looks extremely ugly.
>> Hello Paul,
>>
>> I guess that Michael meant the form, not only the function.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dmitry Shaporenkov
>> JetBrains, Inc
>> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> "Develop with pleasure!"
>>> I want to make a distinction here, on my earlier comments on this
>>> display:
>>>
>>> 1) It's really great that ReSharper shows the progress. Very nice.
>>>
>>> 2) The form of the display is a little weird, with the way it
>>> over-writes the text window, scrollbar, and status line.
>>>
>>> It's not the function, it's the form, that can use some improvement.
>>> The function is WONDERFUL ;)
>>>
>>> "Dmitry Shaporenkov (JetBrains)" <dsha@jetbrains.com> wrote in
>>> message news:c8a894d910a33f8c805424ffa5d2e@news.intellij.net...
>>>
>>>> Hello Michael,
>>>>
>>>> you just confirm the proverb - tastes differ, really :)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dmitry Shaporenkov
>>>> JetBrains, Inc
>>>> http://www.jetbrains.com
>>>> "Develop with pleasure!"
>>>>> I just wanted to say that I like the way ReSharper shows the
>>>>> progress bar on the lower right side in build #219. Very nice...
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
Thanks,
Andrey Simanovsky
Not a toolwindow, just a semi-transparent draggable window.
--
Sergey V. Coox
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"
Hello Andrey,
I don't know if it was me initially, who asked for progress display, but
I did it in tracker and meant slightly different thing.
To the left of the "Ln nn Col nn" part of status bar there is place for animated
icon. It is displayed during build and some other operations. I mean just
animated icon to be displayed there during background analysis - either initial
or later when something requires it. If tooltip can be placed over it - it
would be nice to show something like "15% of solution has been analysed".
Or maybe animated icon itself can show progress somehow, like filling 4 quarters
as progress go.
Sincerely,
Ilya Ryzhenkov
Hello Sergey,
SC> Not a toolwindow, just a semi-transparent draggable window.
Why make things so complex?
http://www.intellij.net/tracker/resharper/viewSCR?publicId=17993
I don't see any advantage of "progress window" over simple icon in status
bar, distinguishable from VS-like icons. Who cares about file being analysed?
You can't change the order analysis is done in, you can't improve the time,
you don't report any errors and/or warnings in this process. Personally,
I care only about the fact if analysis has been finished or not.
Sincerely,
Ilya Ryzhenkov
The problem with a draggable window (whether semitransparent or not) is that
it tends to interfere with graphics of other windows in the environment.
For example, for me progress appears over the solution explorer and I cannot
read the processed assembly names because they are written over the file
names shown in the explorer. I doubt that a draggable window will feel drastically
less clumsy than the present one.
On the other hand, toolwindows can be docked, have Auto Hide feature, and
fit into the Visual Studio style.
Thanks,
Andrey Simanovsky
Ilya Ryzhenkov wrote:
> Who cares about file being analysed?
The information about the file being analyzed could be useful to notice
the files that are being analyzed for too long.
Hello Deivis,
this is true in general, but actually there is a direct correlation between
the size of the file being analysed and
the time needed to analyse it, so it's not difficult to predict what files
are analysed for a long time. However,
there is another use of this information: if an exception or another problem
happens during analysis, it is possible to say what file
has caused it.
Regards,
Dmitry Shaporenkov
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"
>> Who cares about file being analysed?
>>