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(Posting to jetbrains.resharper.community because I don't seem to be allowed
to post to jetbrains.resharper.eap.)

Please elevate Subversion in the list from "perhaps" to "abolutely". Subversion
is slowly replacing CVS in the OSS world and it getting quite popular in
the .NET community.

Also, make sure the integration doesn't do what VSS did and assume a "lock-edit-commit"
(pessimistic) version control system. I'm sure you guys wouldn't make that
mistake, but anytime you mention VSS and CVS/SVN in the same sentence, it
has to get discussed.

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Peter Provost
Weblog: http://www.peterprovost.org/

Yes, of course. In the first version we will support CVS, SourceSafe
and perhaps Subversion.

Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>> Will the C# IDE have any native support for a Version Control System,
>> such as SourceSafe or something else? This would be an EXTREMELY
>> useful feature. IDE Integration of Source Control is very helpful ...
>>


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Hello Peter,

(Posting to jetbrains.resharper.community because I don't seem to be
allowed to post to jetbrains.resharper.eap.)

Please elevate Subversion in the list from "perhaps" to "abolutely".
Subversion is slowly replacing CVS in the OSS world and it getting
quite popular in the .NET community.

Also, make sure the integration doesn't do what VSS did and assume a
"lock-edit-commit" (pessimistic) version control system. I'm sure you
guys wouldn't make that mistake, but anytime you mention VSS and
CVS/SVN in the same sentence, it has to get discussed.

---
Peter Provost
Weblog: http://www.peterprovost.org/

>> Yes, of course. In the first version we will support CVS, SourceSafe
>> and perhaps Subversion.
>>
>> Valentin Kipiatkov
>> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> JetBrains, Inc
>> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> "Develop with pleasure!"
>>> Will the C# IDE have any native support for a Version Control
>>> System, such as SourceSafe or something else? This would be an
>>> EXTREMELY useful feature. IDE Integration of Source Control is very
>>> helpful ...

Hello Peter, thanks for the feedback! I'm pretty sure that Subversion will
be in the Resharper IDE (final name of the IDE has not yet be determined)
.. however, Valentin will be making the final call on that -- I suggest
you and everybody you know who wants it, post here and let them know it's
important for you -- unless there is some technical considerating for not
adding it, I don't see why we won't add it as it seems to be pretty high
on the demand list.

David Stennett
JetBrains, Inc.


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Hello Peter,

I agree...

And, if it came down to CVS or SVN, I would prefer the decision be made
to support SVN...

--
Matt Berther
http://www.mattberther.com

(Posting to jetbrains.resharper.community because I don't seem to be
allowed to post to jetbrains.resharper.eap.)

Please elevate Subversion in the list from "perhaps" to "abolutely".
Subversion is slowly replacing CVS in the OSS world and it getting
quite popular in the .NET community.

Also, make sure the integration doesn't do what VSS did and assume a
"lock-edit-commit" (pessimistic) version control system. I'm sure you
guys wouldn't make that mistake, but anytime you mention VSS and
CVS/SVN in the same sentence, it has to get discussed.

---
Peter Provost
Weblog: http://www.peterprovost.org/

>> Yes, of course. In the first version we will support CVS, SourceSafe
>> and perhaps Subversion.
>>
>> Valentin Kipiatkov
>> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> JetBrains, Inc
>> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> "Develop with pleasure!"
>>> Will the C# IDE have any native support for a Version Control
>>> System, such as SourceSafe or something else? This would be an
>>> EXTREMELY useful feature. IDE Integration of Source Control is very
>>> helpful ...
>>>


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Hello Peter,

PP> Also, make sure the integration doesn't do what VSS did and assume a
PP> "lock-edit-commit" (pessimistic) version control system. I'm sure
PP> you guys wouldn't make that mistake, but anytime you mention VSS and
PP> CVS/SVN in the same sentence, it has to get discussed.

CVS and SVN are designed for "optimistic" use-cases mostly, so that many
developers probably distributed in time and space can work on same project
without creating race conditions. I vote for standard CVS/SVN mode, with
no locks. Having option to switch to "pessimistic" mode would be nice, though.


To continue integration discussion, I would like to have the following features
in IDE that could accompany built-in features of version control system:
- polling cvs/svn to determine if there are any new versions in repository,
at configurable interval.
- manual merge, either always (for better control) or in case of conflicts.
Merge that takes into account language specifics, project settings, etc would
be awesome.
- set of tools to maintain repository. E.g. rename files in rep (for SVN)
when file in project is renamed, clean-up repository, etc

More to come when I have IDE and CVS/SVN working at my desktop :)


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All excellent feature requests. I agree with all of these. I vote 1 (9?)
for Subversion support. I would cry if JetBrains released a C# IDE with out
it!


"Ilya Ryzhenkov" <orangy@netix.ru> wrote in message
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Hello Peter,

>

PP> Also, make sure the integration doesn't do what VSS did and assume a
PP> "lock-edit-commit" (pessimistic) version control system. I'm sure
PP> you guys wouldn't make that mistake, but anytime you mention VSS and
PP> CVS/SVN in the same sentence, it has to get discussed.

>

CVS and SVN are designed for "optimistic" use-cases mostly, so that many
developers probably distributed in time and space can work on same project
without creating race conditions. I vote for standard CVS/SVN mode, with
no locks. Having option to switch to "pessimistic" mode would be nice,
though.

>

To continue integration discussion, I would like to have the following
features in IDE that could accompany built-in features of version control
system:
- polling cvs/svn to determine if there are any new versions in
repository, at configurable interval.
- manual merge, either always (for better control) or in case of
conflicts. Merge that takes into account language specifics, project
settings, etc would be awesome. - set of tools to maintain repository.
E.g. rename files in rep (for SVN) when file in project is renamed,
clean-up repository, etc

>

More to come when I have IDE and CVS/SVN working at my desktop :)

>



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+1 for Subversion "absolutely".

"Peter Provost" <peter@provost.org> wrote in message
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(Posting to jetbrains.resharper.community because I don't seem to be
allowed to post to jetbrains.resharper.eap.)

>

Please elevate Subversion in the list from "perhaps" to "abolutely".
Subversion is slowly replacing CVS in the OSS world and it getting quite
popular in the .NET community.

>

Also, make sure the integration doesn't do what VSS did and assume a
"lock-edit-commit" (pessimistic) version control system. I'm sure you guys
wouldn't make that mistake, but anytime you mention VSS and CVS/SVN in the
same sentence, it has to get discussed.

>

---
Peter Provost
Weblog: http://www.peterprovost.org/

>
>> Yes, of course. In the first version we will support CVS, SourceSafe
>> and perhaps Subversion.
>>
>> Valentin Kipiatkov
>> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> JetBrains, Inc
>> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> "Develop with pleasure!"
>>> Will the C# IDE have any native support for a Version Control System,
>>> such as SourceSafe or something else? This would be an EXTREMELY
>>> useful feature. IDE Integration of Source Control is very helpful ...
>>>
>



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No need for CVS, SVN has almost all the .NET open source project market
share. Mono project is using it, MbUnit, etc... the list goes on.

VSS support is probably lower on my list than SVN or CVS because it cost
money and is in the MS Visual Studio software stack.... developers using
your IDE won't really want it.

The ultimate for your IDE would be to contribute some nice wizards / gui
tools to setup a SVN server in a windows environment so that developers can
just start using SVN!

SVN is a goofy setup and takes a little time but a few simple wizards and
you'd have almost EVERY SourceSafe shop switching over.

"Matt Berther" <mberther@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hello Peter,

>

I agree...

>

And, if it came down to CVS or SVN, I would prefer the decision be made
to support SVN...

>

--
Matt Berther
http://www.mattberther.com

>
>> (Posting to jetbrains.resharper.community because I don't seem to be
>> allowed to post to jetbrains.resharper.eap.)
>>
>> Please elevate Subversion in the list from "perhaps" to "abolutely".
>> Subversion is slowly replacing CVS in the OSS world and it getting
>> quite popular in the .NET community.
>>
>> Also, make sure the integration doesn't do what VSS did and assume a
>> "lock-edit-commit" (pessimistic) version control system. I'm sure you
>> guys wouldn't make that mistake, but anytime you mention VSS and
>> CVS/SVN in the same sentence, it has to get discussed.
>>
>> ---
>> Peter Provost
>> Weblog: http://www.peterprovost.org/
>>> Yes, of course. In the first version we will support CVS, SourceSafe
>>> and perhaps Subversion.
>>>
>>> Valentin Kipiatkov
>>> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>>> JetBrains, Inc
>>> http://www.jetbrains.com
>>> "Develop with pleasure!"
>>>> Will the C# IDE have any native support for a Version Control
>>>> System, such as SourceSafe or something else? This would be an
>>>> EXTREMELY useful feature. IDE Integration of Source Control is very
>>>> helpful ...
>>>>
>



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+1 for SVN support

Hello Peter, thanks for the feedback! I'm pretty
sure that Subversion will
be in the Resharper IDE (final name of the IDE has
not yet be determined)
.. however, Valentin will be making the final call on
that -- I suggest
you and everybody you know who wants it, post here
and let them know it's
important for you -- unless there is some technical
considerating for not
adding it, I don't see why we won't add it as it
seems to be pretty high
on the demand list.

David Stennett
JetBrains, Inc.


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I don't even know what Subversioning is, but hey, it can't be bad. So ..Yeah sure, throw my vote in there.

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Hello Derek,

subversion.tigris.org

A compelling replacement for CVS...

--
Matt Berther
http://www.mattberther.com

I don't even know what Subversioning is, but hey, it can't be bad. So
..Yeah sure, throw my vote in there.



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David Stennett wrote:

>>> Yes, of course. In the first version we will support CVS, SourceSafe
>>> and perhaps Subversion.

Hello Peter, thanks for the feedback! I'm pretty sure that Subversion
will be in the Resharper IDE (final name of the IDE has not yet be
determined) .. however, Valentin will be making the final call on that
-- I suggest you and everybody you know who wants it, post here and let
them know it's important for you -- unless there is some technical


Add me!

Thanks,
Alexander Reifinger

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Just a side note and personal feeling on it, if it comes down to the wire for a release, I could care less about this. We're on SourceSafe, which is terrible, and are looking at Vault.

Also, if I were to throw out the ponies to get VS.NET, I'd probably purchase a SCM server as well. The new SourceSafe will be out soon as well.

Again, this is only if you're holding the release for SVN support.

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+1 for SVN, with _svn syntax suppport instead of .svn MS doesn't support
folders beginning with a dot.

I suspect they did it to make it harder to create .htaccess files ;)

Wiebe

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Wiebe Tijsma wrote:

+1 for SVN, with _svn syntax suppport instead of .svn MS doesn't support
folders beginning with a dot.

I suspect they did it to make it harder to create .htaccess files ;)


MS supports it, it's just that Explorer doesn't.

If you open the commandline and do:

md .net

you'll get a directoy named exaclt that.

Jesse

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Hi,

I know, it's not even Explorer having the problems with it (except for
creating them, reading is fine !?), the error occurs somewhere between
Visual Studio and the IIS WebDAV implementation. I do think it's IIS
causing the problems.

http://www.netindustry.nl/blog/2005/01/getting-subversion-remote-debugging.html

Wiebe

Jesse Houwing wrote:

Wiebe Tijsma wrote:

>> +1 for SVN, with _svn syntax suppport instead of .svn MS doesn't
>> support folders beginning with a dot.
>>
>> I suspect they did it to make it harder to create .htaccess files ;)


MS supports it, it's just that Explorer doesn't.

If you open the commandline and do:

md .net

you'll get a directoy named exaclt that.

Jesse

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+1 for SVN for me as well!!
Keith Lancaster
Noblestar
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Dobie's Dogma:
If you are not thoroughly confused, you have not been thoroughly informed.

David Stennett wrote:

>>>> Yes, of course. In the first version we will support CVS,
>>>> SourceSafe and perhaps Subversion.
>>>>
>> Hello Peter, thanks for the feedback I'm pretty sure that
>> Subversion will be in the Resharper IDE (final name of the IDE has
>> not yet be determined) .. however, Valentin will be making the final
>> call on that -- I suggest you and everybody you know who wants it,
>> post here and let them know it's important for you -- unless there is
>> some technical
>>

Add me!

Thanks,
Alexander Reifinger




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Another vote for SVN. Can't live without it.

"Keith Lancaster" <klancaster@jims.hctx.net> wrote in message
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+1 for SVN for me as well!!
Keith Lancaster
Noblestar
------------------
Dobie's Dogma:
If you are not thoroughly confused, you have not been thoroughly informed.

>
>> David Stennett wrote:
>>
>>>>> Yes, of course. In the first version we will support CVS,
>>>>> SourceSafe and perhaps Subversion.
>>>>>
>>> Hello Peter, thanks for the feedback I'm pretty sure that
>>> Subversion will be in the Resharper IDE (final name of the IDE has
>>> not yet be determined) .. however, Valentin will be making the final
>>> call on that -- I suggest you and everybody you know who wants it,
>>> post here and let them know it's important for you -- unless there is
>>> some technical
>>>
>> Add me!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alexander Reifinger
>
>



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+1 for SVN support!

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+15 where I work.

"Drew Noakes" <no_mail@jetbrains.com> wrote in message
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+1 for SVN support!



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+16 here.

(Hey Drew!)

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