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Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines file?

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As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.

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Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time now.

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
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Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines file?

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>> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.
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So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?

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Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time now.

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Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines file?

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>> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.
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It slows on a freshly made Windows Form that the IDE Generates, I know that
much, and the 4 other projects I've looked at, only two of which are above
300 Lines of code.

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
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So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?

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Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

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>> Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time now.
>>
>> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
>> news:caq121$3ba$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines file?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > JetBrains, Inc
>> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >
>> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:caq0u6$2vo$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.
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What exactly is slow? Is it pauses when you invoke code completion or just
when working? How long pauses?

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"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
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It slows on a freshly made Windows Form that the IDE Generates, I know

that

much, and the 4 other projects I've looked at, only two of which are above
300 Lines of code.

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"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
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So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?

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Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
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"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
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>> Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time now.
>>
>> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

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>> news:caq121$3ba$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines file?
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>> > --
>> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > JetBrains, Inc
>> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >
>> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:caq0u6$2vo$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.
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We are working on the speed issue but things that you report are beyond my
understanding...

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"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
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What exactly is slow? Is it pauses when you invoke code completion or just
when working? How long pauses?

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http://www.jetbrains.com
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"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
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It slows on a freshly made Windows Form that the IDE Generates, I know

that

much, and the 4 other projects I've looked at, only two of which are

above

300 Lines of code.

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So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?

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"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
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>> Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time now.
>>
>> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> news:caq121$3ba$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines file?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > JetBrains, Inc
>> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >
>> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:caq0u6$2vo$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.
>> >>
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Sorry. I'll try to be a little more specific, then.

When typing in the code window, all typing is almost precisely 2 to 3
seconds lagged. That is, when I begin to type, it takes about 2 to 3 seconds
per keystroke to begin showing up.

Intellisense takes longer than usual to appear ( around four times as long )
and takes about that much longer to refresh the window as it tries to
scroll. It typically does not select the appropriate item in the list box
because of this.

Syntax highlighting is not instantaneous, most files are usually all black
until I am no longer typing, after that, it takes about fifteen to twenty
seconds to show up highlighted. Tooltips lag things even more. All in all it
takes me about a minute per line to write anything.

This occurs with every file now, regardless of size and references.

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
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We are working on the speed issue but things that you report are beyond my
understanding...

>

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Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
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>> What exactly is slow? Is it pauses when you invoke code completion or
>> just
>> when working? How long pauses?
>>
>> --
>> Valentin Kipiatkov
>> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> JetBrains, Inc
>> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> "Develop with pleasure!"
>>
>> "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> news:caq1kl$74q$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > It slows on a freshly made Windows Form that the IDE Generates, I know
>> that
>> > much, and the 4 other projects I've looked at, only two of which are

above

>> > 300 Lines of code.
>> >
>> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> > news:caq1j0$718$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > > So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > > JetBrains, Inc
>> > > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> > >
>> > > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:caq1ci$5o5$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > >> Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time now.
>> > >>
>> > >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> message
>> > >> news:caq121$3ba$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > >> > Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines file?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> > >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> > >> > news:caq0u6$2vo$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > >> >> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
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Unbelievable. Does it happen with every file? In any project? In empty
project?
There should be some specific with your project or files or whatever!

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
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Sorry. I'll try to be a little more specific, then.

>

When typing in the code window, all typing is almost precisely 2 to 3
seconds lagged. That is, when I begin to type, it takes about 2 to 3

seconds

per keystroke to begin showing up.

>

Intellisense takes longer than usual to appear ( around four times as

long )

and takes about that much longer to refresh the window as it tries to
scroll. It typically does not select the appropriate item in the list box
because of this.

>

Syntax highlighting is not instantaneous, most files are usually all black
until I am no longer typing, after that, it takes about fifteen to twenty
seconds to show up highlighted. Tooltips lag things even more. All in all

it

takes me about a minute per line to write anything.

>

This occurs with every file now, regardless of size and references.

>

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
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We are working on the speed issue but things that you report are beyond

my

understanding...

>

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

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>> What exactly is slow? Is it pauses when you invoke code completion or
>> just
>> when working? How long pauses?
>>
>> --
>> Valentin Kipiatkov
>> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> JetBrains, Inc
>> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> "Develop with pleasure!"
>>
>> "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> news:caq1kl$74q$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > It slows on a freshly made Windows Form that the IDE Generates, I

know

>> that
>> > much, and the 4 other projects I've looked at, only two of which are

above

>> > 300 Lines of code.
>> >
>> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> > news:caq1j0$718$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > > So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > > JetBrains, Inc
>> > > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> > >
>> > > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:caq1ci$5o5$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > >> Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time now.
>> > >>
>> > >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> message
>> > >> news:caq121$3ba$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > >> > Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines file?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> > >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> > >> > news:caq0u6$2vo$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > >> >> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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Well. At first I thought it was the RC1 and RC2 of Windows XP Service Pack
2, so I tried to uninstall those and that changed nothing. I assumed that
maybe an uninstall wouldn't fix it, so I reinstalled Resharper, did nothing.
So then I took it to work with me, where I do not have SP2 and tried build
88 today, and I still experience this lag.

Both machines are P4 at 3.2 GHz with Hyperthreading and 1 GB of RAM. There
shouldn't be a performance issue ..

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
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Unbelievable. Does it happen with every file? In any project? In empty
project?
There should be some specific with your project or files or whatever!

>

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
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>> Sorry. I'll try to be a little more specific, then.
>>
>> When typing in the code window, all typing is almost precisely 2 to 3
>> seconds lagged. That is, when I begin to type, it takes about 2 to 3

seconds

>> per keystroke to begin showing up.
>>
>> Intellisense takes longer than usual to appear ( around four times as

long )

>> and takes about that much longer to refresh the window as it tries to
>> scroll. It typically does not select the appropriate item in the list box
>> because of this.
>>
>> Syntax highlighting is not instantaneous, most files are usually all
>> black
>> until I am no longer typing, after that, it takes about fifteen to twenty
>> seconds to show up highlighted. Tooltips lag things even more. All in all

it

>> takes me about a minute per line to write anything.
>>
>> This occurs with every file now, regardless of size and references.
>>
>> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
>> news:caq32o$gg6$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > We are working on the speed issue but things that you report are beyond

my

>> > understanding...
>> >
>> > --
>> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > JetBrains, Inc
>> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >
>> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> > news:caq31a$gc7$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> What exactly is slow? Is it pauses when you invoke code completion or
>> >> just
>> >> when working? How long pauses?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> JetBrains, Inc
>> >> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >>
>> >> "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:caq1kl$74q$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > It slows on a freshly made Windows Form that the IDE Generates, I

know

>> >> that
>> >> > much, and the 4 other projects I've looked at, only two of which are
>> > above
>> >> > 300 Lines of code.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> >> > news:caq1j0$718$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > > So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> > > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> > > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> > > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> > > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:caq1ci$5o5$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > >> Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time now.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> > >> news:caq121$3ba$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > >> > Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines file?
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > --
>> >> > >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> > >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> > >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> > >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> > >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> > >> > news:caq0u6$2vo$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > >> >> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
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No.Nothing special about my files. They're just standard. No unsafe code or
anything.


"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
news:caq47o$nis$1@is.intellij.net...

Unbelievable. Does it happen with every file? In any project? In empty
project?
There should be some specific with your project or files or whatever!

>

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
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>> Sorry. I'll try to be a little more specific, then.
>>
>> When typing in the code window, all typing is almost precisely 2 to 3
>> seconds lagged. That is, when I begin to type, it takes about 2 to 3

seconds

>> per keystroke to begin showing up.
>>
>> Intellisense takes longer than usual to appear ( around four times as

long )

>> and takes about that much longer to refresh the window as it tries to
>> scroll. It typically does not select the appropriate item in the list box
>> because of this.
>>
>> Syntax highlighting is not instantaneous, most files are usually all
>> black
>> until I am no longer typing, after that, it takes about fifteen to twenty
>> seconds to show up highlighted. Tooltips lag things even more. All in all

it

>> takes me about a minute per line to write anything.
>>
>> This occurs with every file now, regardless of size and references.
>>
>> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
>> news:caq32o$gg6$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > We are working on the speed issue but things that you report are beyond

my

>> > understanding...
>> >
>> > --
>> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > JetBrains, Inc
>> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >
>> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> > news:caq31a$gc7$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> What exactly is slow? Is it pauses when you invoke code completion or
>> >> just
>> >> when working? How long pauses?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> JetBrains, Inc
>> >> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >>
>> >> "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:caq1kl$74q$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > It slows on a freshly made Windows Form that the IDE Generates, I

know

>> >> that
>> >> > much, and the 4 other projects I've looked at, only two of which are
>> > above
>> >> > 300 Lines of code.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> >> > news:caq1j0$718$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > > So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> > > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> > > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> > > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> > > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:caq1ci$5o5$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > >> Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time now.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> > >> news:caq121$3ba$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > >> > Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines file?
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > --
>> >> > >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> > >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> > >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> > >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> > >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> > >> > news:caq0u6$2vo$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > >> >> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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So is it the same in an empty project? I think it's more likely that there
is something in your files than in your system (service packs etc).

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Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
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No.Nothing special about my files. They're just standard. No unsafe code

or

anything.

>
>

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
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Unbelievable. Does it happen with every file? In any project? In empty
project?
There should be some specific with your project or files or whatever!

>

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
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>> Sorry. I'll try to be a little more specific, then.
>>
>> When typing in the code window, all typing is almost precisely 2 to 3
>> seconds lagged. That is, when I begin to type, it takes about 2 to 3

seconds

>> per keystroke to begin showing up.
>>
>> Intellisense takes longer than usual to appear ( around four times as

long )

>> and takes about that much longer to refresh the window as it tries to
>> scroll. It typically does not select the appropriate item in the list

box

>> because of this.
>>
>> Syntax highlighting is not instantaneous, most files are usually all
>> black
>> until I am no longer typing, after that, it takes about fifteen to

twenty

>> seconds to show up highlighted. Tooltips lag things even more. All in

all

it

>> takes me about a minute per line to write anything.
>>
>> This occurs with every file now, regardless of size and references.
>>
>> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> news:caq32o$gg6$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > We are working on the speed issue but things that you report are

beyond

my

>> > understanding...
>> >
>> > --
>> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > JetBrains, Inc
>> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >
>> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> > news:caq31a$gc7$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> What exactly is slow? Is it pauses when you invoke code completion

or

>> >> just
>> >> when working? How long pauses?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> JetBrains, Inc
>> >> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >>
>> >> "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:caq1kl$74q$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > It slows on a freshly made Windows Form that the IDE Generates, I

know

>> >> that
>> >> > much, and the 4 other projects I've looked at, only two of which

are

>> > above
>> >> > 300 Lines of code.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> >> > news:caq1j0$718$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > > So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> > > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> > > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> > > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> > > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:caq1ci$5o5$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > >> Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time now.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote

in

>> >> message
>> >> > >> news:caq121$3ba$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > >> > Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines file?
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > --
>> >> > >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> > >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> > >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> > >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> > >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> > >> > news:caq0u6$2vo$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > >> >> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

>
>


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It is the same in an empty project with just a single .cs file and no
namespace references.

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
news:caq58n$upk$1@is.intellij.net...

So is it the same in an empty project? I think it's more likely that there
is something in your files than in your system (service packs etc).

>

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:caq4sc$she$1@is.intellij.net...

>> No.Nothing special about my files. They're just standard. No unsafe code

or

>> anything.
>>
>>
>> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
>> news:caq47o$nis$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > Unbelievable. Does it happen with every file? In any project? In empty
>> > project?
>> > There should be some specific with your project or files or whatever!
>> >
>> > --
>> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > JetBrains, Inc
>> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >
>> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:caq3nd$kad$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> Sorry. I'll try to be a little more specific, then.
>> >>
>> >> When typing in the code window, all typing is almost precisely 2 to 3
>> >> seconds lagged. That is, when I begin to type, it takes about 2 to 3
>> > seconds
>> >> per keystroke to begin showing up.
>> >>
>> >> Intellisense takes longer than usual to appear ( around four times as
>> > long )
>> >> and takes about that much longer to refresh the window as it tries to
>> >> scroll. It typically does not select the appropriate item in the list

box

>> >> because of this.
>> >>
>> >> Syntax highlighting is not instantaneous, most files are usually all
>> >> black
>> >> until I am no longer typing, after that, it takes about fifteen to

twenty

>> >> seconds to show up highlighted. Tooltips lag things even more. All in

all

>> > it
>> >> takes me about a minute per line to write anything.
>> >>
>> >> This occurs with every file now, regardless of size and references.
>> >>
>> >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> >> news:caq32o$gg6$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > We are working on the speed issue but things that you report are

beyond

>> > my
>> >> > understanding...
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >
>> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> >> > news:caq31a$gc7$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> What exactly is slow? Is it pauses when you invoke code completion

or

>> >> >> just
>> >> >> when working? How long pauses?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:caq1kl$74q$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> > It slows on a freshly made Windows Form that the IDE Generates, I
>> > know
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> > much, and the 4 other projects I've looked at, only two of which

are

>> >> > above
>> >> >> > 300 Lines of code.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> >> > message
>> >> >> > news:caq1j0$718$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> > > So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > --
>> >> >> > > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> > > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> > > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> > > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> > > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > > news:caq1ci$5o5$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> > >> Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time now.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote

in

>> >> >> message
>> >> >> > >> news:caq121$3ba$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> > >> > Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines file?
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > --
>> >> >> > >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> > >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> > >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> > >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> > >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > >> > news:caq0u6$2vo$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> > >> >> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.
>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>



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Maybe you have some other add-ins intalled? I could not imagine what it can
be...
Are there any other people in your company using ReSharper?

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:caq5m4$229$1@is.intellij.net...

It is the same in an empty project with just a single .cs file and no
namespace references.

>

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
news:caq58n$upk$1@is.intellij.net...

So is it the same in an empty project? I think it's more likely that

there

is something in your files than in your system (service packs etc).

>

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:caq4sc$she$1@is.intellij.net...

>> No.Nothing special about my files. They're just standard. No unsafe

code

or

>> anything.
>>
>>
>> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> news:caq47o$nis$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > Unbelievable. Does it happen with every file? In any project? In

empty

>> > project?
>> > There should be some specific with your project or files or whatever!
>> >
>> > --
>> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > JetBrains, Inc
>> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >
>> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:caq3nd$kad$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> Sorry. I'll try to be a little more specific, then.
>> >>
>> >> When typing in the code window, all typing is almost precisely 2 to

3

>> >> seconds lagged. That is, when I begin to type, it takes about 2 to 3
>> > seconds
>> >> per keystroke to begin showing up.
>> >>
>> >> Intellisense takes longer than usual to appear ( around four times

as

>> > long )
>> >> and takes about that much longer to refresh the window as it tries

to

>> >> scroll. It typically does not select the appropriate item in the

list

box

>> >> because of this.
>> >>
>> >> Syntax highlighting is not instantaneous, most files are usually all
>> >> black
>> >> until I am no longer typing, after that, it takes about fifteen to

twenty

>> >> seconds to show up highlighted. Tooltips lag things even more. All

in

all

>> > it
>> >> takes me about a minute per line to write anything.
>> >>
>> >> This occurs with every file now, regardless of size and references.
>> >>
>> >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> >> news:caq32o$gg6$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > We are working on the speed issue but things that you report are

beyond

>> > my
>> >> > understanding...
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >
>> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> >> > news:caq31a$gc7$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> What exactly is slow? Is it pauses when you invoke code

completion

or

>> >> >> just
>> >> >> when working? How long pauses?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:caq1kl$74q$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> > It slows on a freshly made Windows Form that the IDE Generates,

I

>> > know
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> > much, and the 4 other projects I've looked at, only two of

which

are

>> >> > above
>> >> >> > 300 Lines of code.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote

in

>> >> > message
>> >> >> > news:caq1j0$718$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> > > So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > --
>> >> >> > > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> > > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> > > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> > > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> > > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > > news:caq1ci$5o5$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> > >> Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time now.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com>

wrote

in

>> >> >> message
>> >> >> > >> news:caq121$3ba$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> > >> > Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines file?
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > --
>> >> >> > >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> > >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> > >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> > >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> > >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > >> > news:caq0u6$2vo$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> > >> >> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.
>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

>
>


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Sadly to say I am the only developer in my company. This is an
Air-Conditioning Business, and I'm the boss's son, hired to write a very
specialized program for their equipment. I 'am' the IT department......
I do have that regioning Add-In that was shown in another post today in one
of the requests. But this was also happening at home, and I don't have that
plug in at home....

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
news:caq5p2$2du$1@is.intellij.net...

Maybe you have some other add-ins intalled? I could not imagine what it
can
be...
Are there any other people in your company using ReSharper?

>

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:caq5m4$229$1@is.intellij.net...

>> It is the same in an empty project with just a single .cs file and no
>> namespace references.
>>
>> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
>> news:caq58n$upk$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > So is it the same in an empty project? I think it's more likely that

there

>> > is something in your files than in your system (service packs etc).
>> >
>> > --
>> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > JetBrains, Inc
>> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >
>> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:caq4sc$she$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> No.Nothing special about my files. They're just standard. No unsafe

code

>> > or
>> >> anything.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> >> news:caq47o$nis$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > Unbelievable. Does it happen with every file? In any project? In

empty

>> >> > project?
>> >> > There should be some specific with your project or files or
>> >> > whatever!
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >
>> >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:caq3nd$kad$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> Sorry. I'll try to be a little more specific, then.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> When typing in the code window, all typing is almost precisely 2 to

3

>> >> >> seconds lagged. That is, when I begin to type, it takes about 2 to
>> >> >> 3
>> >> > seconds
>> >> >> per keystroke to begin showing up.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Intellisense takes longer than usual to appear ( around four times

as

>> >> > long )
>> >> >> and takes about that much longer to refresh the window as it tries

to

>> >> >> scroll. It typically does not select the appropriate item in the

list

>> > box
>> >> >> because of this.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Syntax highlighting is not instantaneous, most files are usually
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> black
>> >> >> until I am no longer typing, after that, it takes about fifteen to
>> > twenty
>> >> >> seconds to show up highlighted. Tooltips lag things even more. All

in

>> > all
>> >> > it
>> >> >> takes me about a minute per line to write anything.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This occurs with every file now, regardless of size and references.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> >> >> news:caq32o$gg6$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> > We are working on the speed issue but things that you report are
>> > beyond
>> >> > my
>> >> >> > understanding...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> >> > message
>> >> >> > news:caq31a$gc7$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> What exactly is slow? Is it pauses when you invoke code

completion

>> > or
>> >> >> >> just
>> >> >> >> when working? How long pauses?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> >> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> >> JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> >> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> >> "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:caq1kl$74q$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> > It slows on a freshly made Windows Form that the IDE
>> >> >> >> > Generates,

I

>> >> > know
>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> > much, and the 4 other projects I've looked at, only two of

which

>> > are
>> >> >> > above
>> >> >> >> > 300 Lines of code.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote

in

>> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> > news:caq1j0$718$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> > > So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > --
>> >> >> >> > > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> >> > > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> >> > > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> >> > > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> >> > > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > > news:caq1ci$5o5$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> > >> Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time now.
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com>

wrote

>> > in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> > >> news:caq121$3ba$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> > >> > Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines file?
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > --
>> >> >> >> > >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> >> > >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> >> > >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> >> > >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> >> > >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > >> > news:caq0u6$2vo$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> > >> >> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>



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I remember you send us a small video which showed us problems with
intellisense list. It was very helpful. Maybe you could do the same with
this problem?

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:caq606$47s$1@is.intellij.net...

Sadly to say I am the only developer in my company. This is an
Air-Conditioning Business, and I'm the boss's son, hired to write a very
specialized program for their equipment. I 'am' the IT department......
I do have that regioning Add-In that was shown in another post today in

one

of the requests. But this was also happening at home, and I don't have

that

plug in at home....

>

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
news:caq5p2$2du$1@is.intellij.net...

Maybe you have some other add-ins intalled? I could not imagine what it
can
be...
Are there any other people in your company using ReSharper?

>

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:caq5m4$229$1@is.intellij.net...

>> It is the same in an empty project with just a single .cs file and no
>> namespace references.
>>
>> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> news:caq58n$upk$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > So is it the same in an empty project? I think it's more likely that

there

>> > is something in your files than in your system (service packs etc).
>> >
>> > --
>> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > JetBrains, Inc
>> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >
>> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:caq4sc$she$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> No.Nothing special about my files. They're just standard. No unsafe

code

>> > or
>> >> anything.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> >> news:caq47o$nis$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > Unbelievable. Does it happen with every file? In any project? In

empty

>> >> > project?
>> >> > There should be some specific with your project or files or
>> >> > whatever!
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >
>> >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:caq3nd$kad$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> Sorry. I'll try to be a little more specific, then.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> When typing in the code window, all typing is almost precisely 2

to

3

>> >> >> seconds lagged. That is, when I begin to type, it takes about 2

to

>> >> >> 3
>> >> > seconds
>> >> >> per keystroke to begin showing up.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Intellisense takes longer than usual to appear ( around four

times

as

>> >> > long )
>> >> >> and takes about that much longer to refresh the window as it

tries

to

>> >> >> scroll. It typically does not select the appropriate item in the

list

>> > box
>> >> >> because of this.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Syntax highlighting is not instantaneous, most files are usually
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> black
>> >> >> until I am no longer typing, after that, it takes about fifteen

to

>> > twenty
>> >> >> seconds to show up highlighted. Tooltips lag things even more.

All

in

>> > all
>> >> > it
>> >> >> takes me about a minute per line to write anything.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This occurs with every file now, regardless of size and

references.

>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> >> >> news:caq32o$gg6$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> > We are working on the speed issue but things that you report

are

>> > beyond
>> >> > my
>> >> >> > understanding...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote

in

>> >> > message
>> >> >> > news:caq31a$gc7$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> What exactly is slow? Is it pauses when you invoke code

completion

>> > or
>> >> >> >> just
>> >> >> >> when working? How long pauses?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> >> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> >> JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> >> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> >> "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:caq1kl$74q$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> > It slows on a freshly made Windows Form that the IDE
>> >> >> >> > Generates,

I

>> >> > know
>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> > much, and the 4 other projects I've looked at, only two of

which

>> > are
>> >> >> > above
>> >> >> >> > 300 Lines of code.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com>

wrote

in

>> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> > news:caq1j0$718$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> > > So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > --
>> >> >> >> > > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> >> > > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> >> > > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> >> > > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> >> > > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > > news:caq1ci$5o5$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> > >> Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time

now.

>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com>

wrote

>> > in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> > >> news:caq121$3ba$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> > >> > Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines

file?

>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > --
>> >> >> >> > >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> >> > >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> >> > >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> >> > >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> >> > >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > >> > news:caq0u6$2vo$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> > >> >> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you know.
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

>
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Sure. I'll see what I can do. Who do I email it to?

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
news:caq663$5l8$1@is.intellij.net...
>I remember you send us a small video which showed us problems with

intellisense list. It was very helpful. Maybe you could do the same with
this problem?

>

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:caq606$47s$1@is.intellij.net...

>> Sadly to say I am the only developer in my company. This is an
>> Air-Conditioning Business, and I'm the boss's son, hired to write a very
>> specialized program for their equipment. I 'am' the IT department......
>> I do have that regioning Add-In that was shown in another post today in

one

>> of the requests. But this was also happening at home, and I don't have

that

>> plug in at home....
>>
>> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
>> news:caq5p2$2du$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > Maybe you have some other add-ins intalled? I could not imagine what it
>> > can
>> > be...
>> > Are there any other people in your company using ReSharper?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > JetBrains, Inc
>> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >
>> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:caq5m4$229$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> It is the same in an empty project with just a single .cs file and no
>> >> namespace references.
>> >>
>> >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> >> news:caq58n$upk$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > So is it the same in an empty project? I think it's more likely that
>> > there
>> >> > is something in your files than in your system (service packs etc).
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >
>> >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:caq4sc$she$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> No.Nothing special about my files. They're just standard. No unsafe
>> > code
>> >> > or
>> >> >> anything.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> >> >> news:caq47o$nis$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> > Unbelievable. Does it happen with every file? In any project? In
>> > empty
>> >> >> > project?
>> >> >> > There should be some specific with your project or files or
>> >> >> > whatever!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:caq3nd$kad$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> Sorry. I'll try to be a little more specific, then.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> When typing in the code window, all typing is almost precisely 2

to

>> > 3
>> >> >> >> seconds lagged. That is, when I begin to type, it takes about 2

to

>> >> >> >> 3
>> >> >> > seconds
>> >> >> >> per keystroke to begin showing up.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Intellisense takes longer than usual to appear ( around four

times

>> > as
>> >> >> > long )
>> >> >> >> and takes about that much longer to refresh the window as it

tries

>> > to
>> >> >> >> scroll. It typically does not select the appropriate item in the
>> > list
>> >> > box
>> >> >> >> because of this.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Syntax highlighting is not instantaneous, most files are usually
>> >> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> black
>> >> >> >> until I am no longer typing, after that, it takes about fifteen

to

>> >> > twenty
>> >> >> >> seconds to show up highlighted. Tooltips lag things even more.

All

>> > in
>> >> > all
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> takes me about a minute per line to write anything.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> This occurs with every file now, regardless of size and

references.

>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> > message
>> >> >> >> news:caq32o$gg6$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> > We are working on the speed issue but things that you report

are

>> >> > beyond
>> >> >> > my
>> >> >> >> > understanding...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote

in

>> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> > news:caq31a$gc7$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> >> What exactly is slow? Is it pauses when you invoke code
>> > completion
>> >> > or
>> >> >> >> >> just
>> >> >> >> >> when working? How long pauses?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> >> >> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> >> >> JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> >> >> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> >> >> "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> news:caq1kl$74q$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> >> > It slows on a freshly made Windows Form that the IDE
>> >> >> >> >> > Generates,
>> > I
>> >> >> > know
>> >> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> > much, and the 4 other projects I've looked at, only two of
>> > which
>> >> > are
>> >> >> >> > above
>> >> >> >> >> > 300 Lines of code.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com>

wrote

>> > in
>> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> > news:caq1j0$718$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> >> > > So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> > > --
>> >> >> >> >> > > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> >> >> > > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> >> >> > > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> >> >> > > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> >> >> > > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> > > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> > > news:caq1ci$5o5$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> >> > >> Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time

now.

>> >> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com>
>> > wrote
>> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> > >> news:caq121$3ba$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines

file?

>> >> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > --
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > news:caq0u6$2vo$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> know.
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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Please send it to valentin@jetbrains.com

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:caq69i$60m$1@is.intellij.net...

Sure. I'll see what I can do. Who do I email it to?

>

"Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in message
news:caq663$5l8$1@is.intellij.net...
>I remember you send us a small video which showed us problems with

intellisense list. It was very helpful. Maybe you could do the same with
this problem?

>

--
Valentin Kipiatkov
Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
JetBrains, Inc
http://www.jetbrains.com
"Develop with pleasure!"

>

"Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
news:caq606$47s$1@is.intellij.net...

>> Sadly to say I am the only developer in my company. This is an
>> Air-Conditioning Business, and I'm the boss's son, hired to write a

very

>> specialized program for their equipment. I 'am' the IT department......
>> I do have that regioning Add-In that was shown in another post today in

one

>> of the requests. But this was also happening at home, and I don't have

that

>> plug in at home....
>>
>> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> news:caq5p2$2du$1@is.intellij.net...
>> > Maybe you have some other add-ins intalled? I could not imagine what

it

>> > can
>> > be...
>> > Are there any other people in your company using ReSharper?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> > JetBrains, Inc
>> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >
>> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> > news:caq5m4$229$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> It is the same in an empty project with just a single .cs file and

no

>> >> namespace references.
>> >>
>> >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in

message

>> >> news:caq58n$upk$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> > So is it the same in an empty project? I think it's more likely

that

>> > there
>> >> > is something in your files than in your system (service packs

etc).

>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >
>> >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:caq4sc$she$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> No.Nothing special about my files. They're just standard. No

unsafe

>> > code
>> >> > or
>> >> >> anything.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> >> >> news:caq47o$nis$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> > Unbelievable. Does it happen with every file? In any project?

In

>> > empty
>> >> >> > project?
>> >> >> > There should be some specific with your project or files or
>> >> >> > whatever!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:caq3nd$kad$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> Sorry. I'll try to be a little more specific, then.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> When typing in the code window, all typing is almost precisely

2

to

>> > 3
>> >> >> >> seconds lagged. That is, when I begin to type, it takes about

2

to

>> >> >> >> 3
>> >> >> > seconds
>> >> >> >> per keystroke to begin showing up.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Intellisense takes longer than usual to appear ( around four

times

>> > as
>> >> >> > long )
>> >> >> >> and takes about that much longer to refresh the window as it

tries

>> > to
>> >> >> >> scroll. It typically does not select the appropriate item in

the

>> > list
>> >> > box
>> >> >> >> because of this.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Syntax highlighting is not instantaneous, most files are

usually

>> >> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> black
>> >> >> >> until I am no longer typing, after that, it takes about

fifteen

to

>> >> > twenty
>> >> >> >> seconds to show up highlighted. Tooltips lag things even more.

All

>> > in
>> >> > all
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> takes me about a minute per line to write anything.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> This occurs with every file now, regardless of size and

references.

>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com> wrote
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> > message
>> >> >> >> news:caq32o$gg6$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> > We are working on the speed issue but things that you report

are

>> >> > beyond
>> >> >> > my
>> >> >> >> > understanding...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com>

wrote

in

>> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> > news:caq31a$gc7$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> >> What exactly is slow? Is it pauses when you invoke code
>> > completion
>> >> > or
>> >> >> >> >> just
>> >> >> >> >> when working? How long pauses?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> >> >> Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> >> >> JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> >> >> http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> >> >> "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> news:caq1kl$74q$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> >> > It slows on a freshly made Windows Form that the IDE
>> >> >> >> >> > Generates,
>> > I
>> >> >> > know
>> >> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> > much, and the 4 other projects I've looked at, only two

of

>> > which
>> >> > are
>> >> >> >> > above
>> >> >> >> >> > 300 Lines of code.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)" <valentin@intellij.com>

wrote

>> > in
>> >> >> >> > message
>> >> >> >> >> > news:caq1j0$718$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> >> > > So is it slow for files less than 300 lines?
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> > > --
>> >> >> >> >> > > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> >> >> > > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product Development
>> >> >> >> >> > > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> >> >> > > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> >> >> > > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> > > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> > > news:caq1ci$5o5$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> >> > >> Not really sure. It just seems to be slow all the time

now.

>> >> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > >> "Valentin Kipiatkov (JetBrains)"

<valentin@intellij.com>

>> > wrote
>> >> > in
>> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> > >> news:caq121$3ba$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > Curious, do the problems still start from 301-lines

file?

>> >> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > --
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > Valentin Kipiatkov
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > Chief Scientist, Vice President of Product

Development

>> >> >> >> >> > >> > JetBrains, Inc
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > http://www.jetbrains.com
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > "Develop with pleasure!"
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > "Derek" <derek@btacinc.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> > >> > news:caq0u6$2vo$1@is.intellij.net...
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> As topic says. Not complaining, just letting you
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >> know.
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> >> >> > >
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