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I couldn't agree more @Rozumny. And I have not just jumped to conclusion, I have tried Rider and VS Code side by side and Rider just doesn't do it for me. It could just be my prejudice against Java/Eclipse but Rider looks so much similar and I just don't feel at home with it. I still use Visual Studio for most part of my day and religiously use R# with it. R# is one of those products I'd blindly pay money for without thinking about how much the cost is. But there is no way I'm going to Rider over VS Code when the time to ditch Visual Studio comes. I will just have to make my peace with not having R# and find an alternative.

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Here is what I'm using for Angular development, that gives me most of what Webstorm provides (but a lot snappier):

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=doggy8088.angular-extension-pack

For .NET development there's still a void (hence this article) but see this link:

https://blog.uship.com/shippingcode/visual-studioresharper-level-productivity-in-vscode/

Of course, what we'd really like are the features of Resharper for .NET development and the features of Webstorm for web development, all in a single extension or two for an editor that has massive momentum and adoption in the dev community.

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@Fir3pho3nixx By "for work" I meant that my home machine is Linux and my two work-provided machines are a Macbook and a Windows machine.  I thought that would have been obvious, but I can see from your posts thus far that you assume little of people don't who make the same professional choices as you, instead choosing to jump to conclusions and then patronise.

The only "lack of tooling" is that Resharper would be a nice to have, I'm not dying without it.  If you read the entire thread, you'll see that JetBrains have specifically stated that they won't support VSCode because they are focusing on Rider so I, like others, joined this thread to add my two cents of "I like Resharper, I don't like Rider".

In answer to your question, no, I do not expect that v1 Rider would compete with VS2017, that is entirely my point: why rebuild an already established IDE and tightly integrate the Resharper product, when instead they could be loosely integrated?

Everybody before you has been adding their opinion of JetBrains' choice, as is the purpose of this thread.  You instead decided to post your opinion of other people's opinions, make condescending assumptions of how they arrived at those opinions and then tell them that you are right and they are wrong.  This is the only reason I have engaged you directly on the matter, I really don't care if you use VS2017, Rider, Atom or anything else.

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I would also like a plug in for VSCode that provides Resharper level refactorings.  Just saying.

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no chance. writing this since years. they dont bring it

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Well I've cancelled my subscription.  As a consultant I need to use the best tools for the job and to engage my clients eco-system.  More often than not this is no longer C# and Windows.

I've tried to use WebStorm but the total lack of a VS Studio Keyboard map just kills it for me.  Plus the IDE looks and feels terrible on Windows.

VSCode is gaining ground, nobody is going to use Rider in a professional sense, why would they?

 

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Totally agree, i shall stop using and subscribing if there is no support for vscode, Rider just does not work!!

Please lets have a plugin for vscode or goodbye resharper!

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I doubt that anyone on the R# team is watching this thread anymore, after all, they've already aggressively said that they would never "change their minds".  But, just in case:

Wanted to give you the heads' up that our client is finally going away from Silverlight, and we're moving into Angular.  This is going to require a full rewrite of the front-end, and after that, we're scrapping VS and switching to VSC entirely.  We have over 100 developers alone (many of our testers also have IDEs and R# installed), all of which are responsible for 2 licenses each (we all have R# on our home computers, as well as licenses for our work computers). 

If JetBrains continues to dig their heels in with such a horrible business decision, count on another 200+ licenses disappearing in the next few months.

Resharper is a fantastic product.  And it's a product the people clearly want.  (It's honestly the ONLY reason I even have a subscription.  Check my metrics.  I've installed WebStorm once or twice, but never can get into it.)  

Ignoring your customers is a fantastic way to create a void in the marketplace for competition to come in and put you out of business.

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reverse psychology? not sure if it works :) But JB is truly missing a market here. but that is the nature of companies. some get it, some not. others will come.

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JetBrains, why don't you send a survey to your customer base, to find out what they are thinking about Rider vs. VSCODE.

As @Javin many of us moving forward with cutting R# subscriptions off and would activate the subscription in a heartbeat if it would support VSCODE.

JetBrains, please hear your customers, we do not want to play with Rider, our toy is VSCODE, and we all want to have the greatest weapon called R# in it...

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VS Code is getting better with each release, I actually look FW to reading the release notes. The GAP between default VS Code with the most common extensions and R# is getting smaller.

tbh, I am just kinda getting over this now.. R# is becoming a distant memory. Last years tool. 

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Agreed, this post is 4 years old.  I have learned to live without R# when working in VSC,mainly because of how fast it is versus VS 2017/2019.  The productivity gains available are good enough for me.  But, I still enjoyed some of R# features so I  would definitely support an effort to make an extension that brought that functionality to VSC.

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I think the JetBrains team meant to say: "We are listening to you and appreciate your support.  Without your support, we would not have job.  At this point, we have made the business decision to put all of our focus on developing Rider, however we will continue to listen to our valued customers.  Thanks for your understanding."

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I am terribly disappointed with JetBrains decision. Javascript world is steadily moving towards Typescript and the go to tool for Typescript developers is Visual Studio Code, not to mention other languages that found Visual Studio Code the perfect IDE to customize for their needs. I'm sure on one thing - someone will fill the empty space as they already do. VS Code already supports minimal refactoring and productivity enhancement features and people will add more as time goes by, it just seems to me that it wouldn't be as big of a project to integrate Resharper with VS Code vs doing all of that work all over again from scratch.

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Hey there.

Got a new job, and VSCode is mandatory. So I'm canceling my R# subscription.

I understand Jetbrains decision; after all, Microsoft did a lot to try to match R# features directly in Visual Studio. However, I still think it was a wrong business decision, and that they are actively shrinking their market share. I bet their sales figures for Rider are good, but I wonder if they are missing out on plugin sales with this decision.

Anyways, I'm really bummed out for not having R# features in VSC, but I'll have to make do with what I have.

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@Andrew, would you mind posting your list of extensions for VS Code that you think helps?

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Please integrate ReSharper into VSCode!

VSCode is a superior editor with endless customizations. This is the kind of an editor that's easy to convert into a full featured IDE for almost any kind of project one can dream up. Should one need to work with Scala, Elixir, PHP or Python, etc. - no problem! Themes are awesome (like Monokai Pro -- paid theme, btw). Editing experience is amazing! Git integration is superior likewise! Working in VSCode is a pure joy in any programming language or type of project. VSCode is designed with great tooling in mind.

I use Rider pretty much for liniting and building .Net Framework projects only when I'm ready to commit my work (just because the company provides licensing for it). Once we move away to .NET Core completely, it's gonna be "good-buy Rider!"

It's a shame... please reconsider.

 

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Personally, when my R# subs expires in January I'll have to consider very carefully whether it is really worth renewing without vsCode support as that is where the tide is taking more and more of my work. Plus it's just so much nicer than full fat VS2017.

Would hate to leave the JB family, but thems the breaks.

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Fingers crossed you can create an extension before someone writes one for free that takes off

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I'm went for the All Products Pack because I wanted Resharper and IDEA and the price was right for the upgrade. This essentially gets me a free-for-forever-trial of Rider, so I keep it updated in Jetbrains ToolBox and look at it from time to time.

For starters, Rider is supposed to be getting a UI editor "Real Soon Now". And I know youre working on it like crazy, but if you want people to use Rider, it needs to be a *preferable* alternative to VS Code *or* VS 2017.

But it's not. It's simply missing too much to be usable for me. This doesn't bother me. I'm going along with Visual Studio and Resharper like I planned on at the moment.

But this also means that if I find myself having to move to VS Code before you have made Rider that preferable alternative, I may have to rethink what I am willing to buy from you. 

I'm chiming in here to let you know that this day may be coming. I only found this thread because I'm considering VS Code and wanted to know if you supported it. 

I love you guys, but do what you need to do. 

Good luck, we're all counting on you.

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@Fir3pho3nixx I use VS Code because I write .NET Core code on Mac, Linux and Windows (depending on who I'm doing work for) and enjoy the consistent experience.  Secondly, VS Code is lightning fast and has extensions for all the other languages I work with.  I won't bore you with all of the technical limitations of VS2017 (e.g. 32 bit) and their impact on large real world solutions, I'll instead just recommend that you educate yourself before announcing that people are using the wrong tool.

As fans of VS Code and fans of Resharper, we came here to ask that JetBrains don't build a subpar facsimile of an IDE we've already moved on from and instead provide their excellent tooling as a local service that can be integrated into anything (a la OmniSharp).  What they do with that is, of course, completely up to them.

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Go look up the meaning of the word boycott and stop putting words in my mouth.

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Fir3pho3nixx. I'm not sure why you say you agree with me because I'm not at all sure I agree with you.

I don't have a dog in this fight. In fact, I didn't know there was one. I just showed up and walked into the middle of it by accident.

I'm just getting to the point I need to consider what to do for the future (my .NET skills are a few years old and in the process of playing catchup I found myself at this juncture), so I would think I'm sample of the market Jetbrains really cares about: A current AllProducts customer they want to retain . My concern is that it really doesn't look good for them right now on the tools that got me to upgrade..

This bothers me butin the "ZOMG!!! I'm an abandoned customer! >PITCHFORKS!!!<" sense. It bothers me in the sense of: I'm got a favorite team I'm rooting for and I'm seeing them fall behind, and want them to pull out the win.

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@Joe Hertz - Did not get a sense of you holding up pitchfork, thought your post was kind and honest. I wish you the best of luck with the learning endeavour. 

** Edited **

I am also rooting for the underdog :) Whether they will win is another matter entirely, it will take some time I think.

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so, today my perpetual license for R# expired and there's no way I'm renewing it as I only use full VS under duress.  However, I'm licensed up to 2016.3 of R# but this won't install into Visual Studio 2017 v 15.5 (only supports v15.3).   

Either purchase a new license or downgrade Visual Studio 2017 to v15.3.   Given I rarely use full fat VS these days I'll be doing neither and I definitely won't be buying Rider.  But I would have purchased a R# extension for VS Code.

Another customer lost.  

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Rider seems very outdated IDE. You just need to create good extension for VS Code because Omnisharp is a little buggy.

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I switch between VS Code and Visual Studio (which I've used for more than 20 years).  And I truly dread those times that I have to switch back to full-bloated Visual Studio.  I miss having R#, but I hate the bloat even more.  The market will figure this out either way.  I really, really hope to see a paid option in the marketplace since paid options tend to have more in-depth features and support over time.

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Please, please, PLEASE reconsider.  I would love to walk away from Visual Studio, it's so slow for everything, especially when R# is being used, the *ONLY* thing I dislike about Code is that it doesn't have R#!  I have tried Rider, it's ok, not great, not terrible, but not my preferred editor, like a lot of other people.  Make Rider free, and charge for R# extensions, and also offer them for Code!

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Can anyone recommend a decent C# linter? I really like Re# for its linting capabilities.

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Getting r# on VS Code would be a good thing for sure, but in the last year VS Code and plugins have made a big jump ahead.

I would pay for it but things have changed, and is not needed as before.(for web developement).

The "funny" thing is that the popularity of VS Code is skyrocketing every year (check, for example, the stackoverflow survey), new enahncements and plugins are filling the gap with r# (again: i'm speaking for web developement).

I just cant understand the decision to ignore it but... i dont care :) I just renewed my subscription until mid 2020, i'm not sure i will renew in future.

 

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